Bad take.

You can rm -rf your entire hard drive, but you can't blame rm for it, it's you who did it, maybe because you don't know, or a mistake, doesn't matter.

When you ask the clanker to delete x number of files in a directory, it can reason itself that is easier to just get rid of the directory.

Can't expect deterministic outcomes out of a statistical model.

At it's current state its a wildcard, sure you can build guard rails, reduce permissions, but it's still a wildcard.

Let's not kid ourselves saying is just a skill issue.

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BeetleB 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> When you ask the clanker to delete x number of files in a directory, it can reason itself that is easier to just get rid of the directory.

Oh sure, so don't give it write access to anything important. And make backups.

Mine is on a VM. It doesn't have access to my host's files. The worst it will do is delete the files on the VM. No great loss.

Yes, I do get it to modify things on my host, but only via a REST API I've set up on my host, and I whitelist the things it can do (no generic delete, for example). I even let it send emails. But only to me. It can't send an email to anyone else.

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latexr 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> So ... don't give it write access to your email?

> (…)

> Oh sure, so don't give it write access to anything important. And make backups.

If this conversation continues much longer, we’ll end up with “don’t use it at all”.

If I can’t trust a piece of software with anything important, why am I wasting my time fiddling with it? Might as well go play a video game or go do literally anything else entertaining.

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BeetleB 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> If I can’t trust a piece of software with anything important

Not what I said. As I've repeatedly said in this thread: Plenty of use cases where you don't give it access to email and write access to files. The comment you're replying to has an example of that.

> Might as well go play a video game or go do literally anything else entertaining.

True of most hobbies, right? I knew people who 20 years ago used to spend time in their garage building solar powered vehicles. But if I can't trust it to be reliable and safe on the road, I might as well go play a video game.

Also: Is anyone telling you to use it?

	▲	latexr a few seconds ago \| parent [-]
		> True of most hobbies, right? And if anyone treated OpenClaw as a hobby, you’d have a point, but people are using it for work in ways which will affect millions of other people when they’re hacked or the agent fucks up something important. Case in point, this is the corporate vice president of Microsoft Word: https://www.omarknows.ai/p/meet-lobster-my-personal-ai-assis... > Also: Is anyone telling you to use it? You don’t need to use the technology to be affected by it. Ask Scott Shambaugh: https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on...