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nr378 6 hours ago

Nice work.

It strikes me there's more low hanging fruit to pluck re. context window management. Backtracking strikes me as another promising direction to avoid context bloat and compaction (i.e. when a model takes a few attempts to do the right thing, once it's done the right thing, prune the failed attempts out of the context).

elephanlemon 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Agree. I’d like more fine grained control of context and compaction. If you spend time debugging in the middle of a session, once you’ve fixed the bugs you ought to be able to remove everything related to fixing them out of context and continue as you had before you encountered them. (Right now depending on your IDE this can be quite annoying to do manually. And I’m not aware of any that allow you to snip it out if you’ve worked with the agent on other tasks afterwards.)

I think agents should manage their own context too. For example, if you’re working with a tool that dumps a lot of logged information into context, those logs should get pruned out after one or two more prompts.

Context should be thought of something that can be freely manipulated, rather than a stack that can only have things appended or removed from the end.

nr378 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh that's quite a nice idea - agentic context management (riffing on agentic memory management).

There's some challenges around the LLM having enough output tokens to easily specify what it wants its next input tokens to be, but "snips" should be able to be expressed concisely (i.e. the next input should include everything sent previously except the chunk that starts XXX and ends YYY). The upside is tighter context, the downside is it'll bust the prompt cache (perhaps the optimal trade-off is to batch the snips).

ip26 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe the right answer is “why not both”, but subagents can also be used for that problem. That is, when something isn’t going as expected, fork a subagent to solve the problem and return with the answer.

It’s interesting to imagine a single model deciding to wipe its own memory though, and roll back in time to a past version of itself (only, with the answer to a vexing problem)

jon-wood 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I forget where now but I'm sure I read an article from one of the coding harness companies talking about how they'd done just that. Effectively it could pass a note to its past self saying "Path X doesn't work", and otherwise reset the context to any previous point.

I could see this working like some sort of undo tree, with multiple branches you can jump back and forth between.

jonnycoder 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It feels like the late 1990s all over again, but instead of html and sql, it’s coding agents. This time around, a lot of us are well experienced at software engineering and so we can find optimizations simply by using claude code all day long. We get an idea, we work with ai to help create a detailed design and then let it develop it for us.