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traceroute66 3 hours ago

> ChatGPT was trained on the same medical textbooks and research papers that doctors are.

There is a reason why the majority of a doctor's 8 years of training is spent doing the rounds as a junior doctor in hospital wards ....

tty456 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Curious, what is learned doing rounds that isn't taught in med school, that ChatGPT could benefit from?

kruffalon 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

People!

Interacting with real people, facing a person trying to get help for something that they don't want to experience is vastly different than reading about a symptom or group of symptoms in a book.

moffkalast 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That just sounds like instruct tuning on user data with extra steps. They must've collected hundreds of millions of conversation examples of people asking for medical related things by now.

kruffalon 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You're thinking about nursing. This is a different field that I think doctors should study and practice too.

Doctors, from what I can tell, receive no formal education in nursing.

tty456 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Right. All doctors are 100% happy to help you, listen intently, and are never condescending! /s

kruffalon 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No, in my experience most are actually quite condescending, but I can't imagine they would treat me better if I was the first ever patient they had to deal with.

traceroute66 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Curious, what is learned doing rounds that isn't taught in med school, that ChatGPT could benefit from?

Seriously ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The textbooks are the theory.

The hospital wards are the practice.

The hospital wards are what shows you that the human body is complex and many times things don't happen like the textbook says it will.

And then there's the ICU, pediatric, geriatric and mental health wards where the patient often cannot even describe their symptoms ...

yunnpp 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The idea that theory does not match practice is very foreign to a software developer or somebody that works in the information processing field. We are spoiled to have mathematicians do the hard work, and then we just get to botch it all with software that doesn't even work. But people with real jobs doing actual science/engineering know that the practice never matches the theory and that one needs to harden their balls in the thick of battle to come to a true understanding of things. That's why only a software developer, in their full command of hubris and ignorance, would suggest that you can replace a doctor with a computer program that has digested every book in existence and then statistically regurgitates its contents.

ruszki 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just from coding: Clean Code. Most companies require this on principle. But nobody follows it. And there is a good reason, because if you follow it, your code will be completely unreadable and thus unmaintainable.

batshit_beaver 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice.

In practice...

dgxyz 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nothing. Need brain, body, hands, eyes.

kledru 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

well, chatGPT only started its first year and probably has not even done an autopsy