| ▲ | patrickmay 7 hours ago |
| A good start would be requiring police officers to carry individual liability insurance so that municipalities aren't paying for these lawsuits. If someone can't get insurance, they can no longer be a cop. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It's going to be cheaper for municipalites to have group insurance for this (or self-insure) than to have to pay the police enough that they can afford their own insurance. |
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| ▲ | JoshTriplett 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The whole point of requiring individual insurance is precisely that insurance will be too expensive for people who are demonstrably high risk in that role, and less expensive for people who are low risk. | | |
| ▲ | pinkmuffinere 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Some of the additional expense would be due to an individual risk profile, and some of the expense would be due to lack of bargaining power. The expense due to individual risk profile is a feature. The expense due to lack of bargaining power is not. | | |
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| ▲ | Zigurd 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If it's uninsurable in the private market, that's a hint. Maybe they could pledge the pension fund. | |
| ▲ | mothballed 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ultimately it's the civil authorities and upper brass that want these intrusions. The insurance issue is easily worked around by hiring green recruits at a very high "bonus" to be used as basically burner employees to burn through their insurance and do the illegal stuff under their identity. It has to be a criminal thing because the top brass and civil servants need RICO like prosecution and tossed in jail along with the guy who gets the insurance ding. | | |
| ▲ | lazide 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | It’s already a (very real) crime to do a Conspiracy to deprive someone of their civil rights, which is what you’re talking about. Occasionally someone gets sued under it, but it’s rare. |
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| ▲ | UncleMeat an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Before that we need a vast overhaul of qualified immunity for state officials and expansion of Section 1983 to cover federal officials. It is incredibly difficult to sue state officials for violating your rights because of how qualified immunity works and Bivens is even weaker when it comes to suing federal officials. |
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| ▲ | sneak 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don’t disagree, but can we really claim to have the rule of law if there is a class of people who can flagrantly violate criminal law and court orders and suffer zero criminal consequences? |
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| ▲ | Zigurd 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Mayors, prosecutors, merchants, and local press get co-opted by police. This leads to systemic failures that, unfortunately, make dealing with this in criminal law less workable. Sometimes you gotta do what works. |
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