I'm not from California but this to me seems like a great case to move to California. Why not ship your externality creating activities elsewhere? Its not like they pay more for the iPhone.

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jameson 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Consider housing price and state tax as well

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georgeecollins 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And don't forget the strict laws that prevent people from leaving and require them to complain instead.

	▲	kg 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		As someone who moved out of California a few years ago I assure you that it is exceedingly easy to move to a different state, assuming you have the money to move at all.

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Take8435 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Sure. A state where housing is dirt cheap and no taxes is great, but if something happens to you, good luck finding a hospital or municipal services. Job prospects are also something to consider.

Just because houses cost more and there's a state tax, doesn't mean it's _bad_.

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reliabilityguy 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Why not ship your externality creating activities elsewhere?

Like where?

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runjake 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Like the places where people welcome deregulation and jobs?

Not trying to sound like a jerk but there’s plenty of places in the US where people welcome stuff like coal mines and polluting factories.

If the factories have to be somewhere and they consent, then why not there?

	▲	culi 11 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		corporations taking hold of small local governments and passing laws that benefit them, unbeknownst to the locals living there, is hardly "consent"
	▲	tolerance 11 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Can’t help but feel like you’re overestimating the competency of the average voter in these effected areas; a breath after yours—though not necessarily your own—may condemn these people for being undereducated, out of touch with culture or subject to corporate grifters.
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anon-3988 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's this country called China that you guys been offshoring manufacturing to...

	▲	reliabilityguy 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Unless you are from China, your jurisdiction offshores to China as well.

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tokenless 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well the attitude that puts a full stop (well a question mark) after "NIMBY" says implicity "where the poors live".

	▲	reliabilityguy 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Well, I find it a bit hypocritical: if those things are so bad, why to forbid manufacturing and not consumption? Otherwise you just pollute a place where people that have no say live.