| ▲ | crazygringo 3 hours ago | |||||||
> Life is not safe, nor can it be made safe without taking away freedom. So... no food and safety regulations, because life is not safe, and people should have the freedom to poison food with cheaper, lethal ingredients because their freedom matters more? You're right that things can't be made more safe without taking away the freedom to harm people. Which is why even the most freedom-loving countries on earth strike a balance. They actually have tons and tons of safety regulations that save tons and tons of lives, even you from your point of view that means not "treating people as adults". You have to wear a seatbelt, even if you feel like you're not being treated like an adult. Because it's also not just your own life you're putting at risk, but your passengers' as well. You're taking the most extreme libertarian stance possible. Thank goodness that's an extremely minority view, and that the vast, vast majority of voters do actually think safety is important. | ||||||||
| ▲ | iamnothere 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
Thank goodness there are FOSS options, even for mobile phones, and none of us are required to accept proprietary junk. If they make FOSS illegal, guess I’ll be a criminal. Come and take it. | ||||||||
| ▲ | bigstrat2003 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Your post is addressing a strawman, not what I said. But to answer the words you so ungraciously put in my mouth: > So... no food and safety regulations, because life is not safe, and people should have the freedom to poison food with cheaper, lethal ingredients because their freedom matters more? This is harm to others and is very obviously something we should enforce. There are unreasonable laws about food (banning the sale of raw milk cheese for example, which most of the world enjoys with perfect safety), but by and large they are unobjectionable. > You're right that things can't be made more safe without taking away the freedom to harm people. Which is why even the most freedom-loving countries on earth strike a balance. I never said I was opposed to striking a balance. Of course we can strike a balance. Indeed we already have when it comes to installing apps on Android. But these measures are being advanced as if safety were the only consideration, which it isn't. > You're taking the most extreme libertarian stance possible. No, that is what you have projected onto me. That's not actually what my stance is. | ||||||||
| ▲ | jrm4 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
Your analogy is terrible because it doesn't do a proper accounting of "harm" and "risk." Food and seatbelts, that's literal health and life-and-death; very immediate and visible. "Cybersecurity" rarely is; and even when it is, the problem is that the centralized established authorities (like google) aren't at all provably good at this. | ||||||||
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