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embedding-shape 14 hours ago

Ah man, just tried to submit this with the title "Discord cuts ties with Peter Thiel-backed SaaS once code tied to US spying found" which is slightly better I think, and fits exactly within 80 characters :)

I think the whole "after its code was found tied to U.S. surveillance efforts" part is new and wasn't known before, so feels important to have in the title too. Although most of us probably assumed it was true before too.

blitzar 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> once code tied to US spying found

New and also should be the big story.

"Butcher cuts ties with supplier when steaks found to be human meat" shouldnt be a story about changing suppliers ...

rapnie 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You might email @dang and request a title change. hn@ycombinator.com is the email address.

robtherobber 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That would have been a better title, I agree.

crimsoneer 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is this actually a thing that is true?

embedding-shape 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think HN titles are judged by "is it true?" but rather how close the submission title is to the original title and otherwise represents the content of the submission.

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zer00eyz 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> "after its code was found tied to U.S. surveillance efforts" part is new ... Although most of us probably assumed it was true before too.

This makes me feel VERY old.

641A: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

Retroactive telecom immunity: https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/10/17

The government spying on what you do has been old news for 20 years. Snowden should not have been a shocking revelation to any one but it was, and that was 13 years ago.

Its less of a "assumed it was true" and more of a "oh look another one, not shocking".

bigyabai 9 hours ago | parent [-]

> The government spying on what you do has been old news for 20 years.

The methodology has evolved dramatically in those 20 years, what we've seen from Snowden is almost certainly obsolete in the light of new surveillance tactics. Even as a pessimist myself, I'm still routinely shocked by the lengths that American tech has been bugged.

Salt Typhoon is really the icing on this cake; "lawful" intercept turned against the state that implemented it. There are more twists left in this story no matter how jaded you might feel.