| ▲ | Japanese Death Poems(secretorum.life) | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| 68 points by NaOH 3 days ago | 21 comments | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | pjc50 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
I only know a tiny corner of the language, but for things like this I really wish they'd cite the original Japanese. Precisely because the haiku is a constrained form, it is also an opportunity for ambiguity, double-meaning, and cases where a word may be translated with the same semantics but different connotations. By comparison, the gold standard for dealing with non-English poetry in English: https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1... You have (1) the original Greek, (2) word-by-word lookup, (3) translation notes, and (4) multiple translations. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | tl2do 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
As a native Japanese speaker, I'm happy to see our literature introduced to other countries. But I also feel conflicted. The original Japanese of the first poem is: おほけなき床の錦や散り紅葉 The translation on the site: > I am not worthy > of this crimson carpet: > autumn maple leaves. This contains the translator's interpretation, and the sound and intonation are completely lost. I admire the translator's effort, but I want visitors to understand how much this differs from the original. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | stared 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
In the topic of death poems, I consider "You Want It Darker" by Leonard Cohen a masterpiece. He was 83 with terminal cancer. Yet, this song captures both his wit & spirit at its height. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | seletskiy 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
This piece instantly reminded me of Ashes and Snow movie, where one of the poems has very similar opening (followed, in my opinion, by even more beautiful piece, which you can easily find if interested):
I wonder whether or not this is just a coincidence. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | andyjohnson0 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
by Mona (Sono) Santacroce (1928–1995)from The Five Invitations: Discovering What Death Can Teach Us About Living Fully by Frank Ostaseski | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | DaedalusII 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
The sun sips the sky until it is drowning I am circling my prey If I am strong, the world will finally let us be https://pearlharbor.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/USS-Essex... | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | pndy 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
This is surely epitaph equivalent from that part of the world | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Noaidi 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Since time began the dead alone know peace. Life is but melting snow. ~~ Having a mental illness and being homeless I sit with my life now and let it melt. I know death is coming so I just let it come. I tried to force death to come twice, but I found that suffering is really no different that joy. I live in a van right now so I am upper class homeless but soon I may be totally shelterless. Part of me is looking forward to it. Through the last ten years, moving from riches to rags, all my past attachments, all I can do is laugh at myself. There is such a weird liberation in inescapable suffering and I hope you all get to experience it someday. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | block_dagger 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Death is apparently snowy | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | pelasaco 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
"A last fart: are these the leaves of my dream, vainly falling? In the original, the image of a dream is combined with the cruder image of passing wind.." Is the wind representing the fart here? | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ThrowawayTestr an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
"Death poems are mere delusion— death is death." Hardcore | |||||||||||||||||||||||