The first thing on the agenda is to impeach & convict, if there were enough patriotic Americans in Congress it should be possible this afternoon.

Then they can take their time to reverse all immunity granted by this President so all snakes can be rooted out.

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ohyoutravel 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Presidential pardon immunity is unreversable. There could potentially be a constitutional amendment on this, which is a super high bar, but even then the prohibition on ex post facto laws would only affect pardons going forward. It will be up to the states.

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triceratops 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Presidential pardon immunity is unreversable

But presidents are also immune against prosecution for official acts. Could a president just disregard pardons from a prior administration? Immovable object, irresistible force kinda situation right?

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ohyoutravel 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, but the courts would dismiss the case. If not the appeals court would. If not the Supreme Court would.

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ceejayoz 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And then you use presidential immunity to Maduro a few justices.

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coldpie 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

At least 3 members of the Supreme Court are among those working under the current admin who need to be serving life sentences in prison.

	▲	mikkupikku 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If at least two-thirds of the Senate doesn't agree, then that doesn't matter.

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keernan 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>>the prohibition on ex post facto laws would only affect pardons going forward.

That is plainly wrong. A constitutional amendment can say anything. There are no prohibitions.

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ohyoutravel 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well, no, it’s in the US Constitution. So I suppose congress could add a constitutional amendment to remove the prohibition on ex post facto laws. But that’s so unthinkable it might as well be a fantasy. Far from “plainly wrong,” which seems unnecessarily aggressive verbiage.

	▲	ceejayoz 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		An amendment can’t violate the constitution. It is the constitution. You can do anything.
	▲	wat10000 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Why couldn't the amendment just say, "The presidential power pardon is revoked, and all prior pardons are null and void"? You have to amend the Constitution to remove the pardon power regardless, why would it be so difficult to put in a clause saying that it's retroactive?

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fuzzfactor 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Whatever it takes would be worth it.

An example needs to be set.

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k33n 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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fuzzfactor 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Wrong.

American patriots have never had anything in common with anybody like Trump.

Take your racist attitude somewhere else and it would not be so embarrassing.

	▲	k33n an hour ago \| parent [-]
		It’s racist to call out the anti-white hatred that is prevalent with leftists who claim to be patriots (while they generally claim that the US is illegitimate)? All the internet brigading in the world won’t absolve you from what you’re part of. Again, the left are not patriots by any stretch of the world. MAGA is a patriotic movement. You can’t hate nationalism and be a patriot.