Presidential pardon immunity is unreversable. There could potentially be a constitutional amendment on this, which is a super high bar, but even then the prohibition on ex post facto laws would only affect pardons going forward. It will be up to the states.

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triceratops 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Presidential pardon immunity is unreversable

But presidents are also immune against prosecution for official acts. Could a president just disregard pardons from a prior administration? Immovable object, irresistible force kinda situation right?

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ohyoutravel 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, but the courts would dismiss the case. If not the appeals court would. If not the Supreme Court would.

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ceejayoz 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And then you use presidential immunity to Maduro a few justices.

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coldpie 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

At least 3 members of the Supreme Court are among those working under the current admin who need to be serving life sentences in prison.

	▲	mikkupikku 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If at least two-thirds of the Senate doesn't agree, then that doesn't matter.

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keernan 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>>the prohibition on ex post facto laws would only affect pardons going forward.

That is plainly wrong. A constitutional amendment can say anything. There are no prohibitions.

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ohyoutravel 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well, no, it’s in the US Constitution. So I suppose congress could add a constitutional amendment to remove the prohibition on ex post facto laws. But that’s so unthinkable it might as well be a fantasy. Far from “plainly wrong,” which seems unnecessarily aggressive verbiage.

	▲	ceejayoz 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		An amendment can’t violate the constitution. It is the constitution. You can do anything.
	▲	wat10000 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Why couldn't the amendment just say, "The presidential power pardon is revoked, and all prior pardons are null and void"? You have to amend the Constitution to remove the pardon power regardless, why would it be so difficult to put in a clause saying that it's retroactive?

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fuzzfactor 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Whatever it takes would be worth it.

An example needs to be set.