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lukasb 5 hours ago

Conflicting evidence: the fact that literally everyone in tech is posting about how they're using AI.

hunterpayne 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I personally know some of those people. They are basically being forced by their employers to post those things. Additionally, there is a ton of money promoting AI. However, in private those same people say that AI doesn't help them at all and in fact makes their work harder and slower.

You are assuming people are acting in good faith. This is a mistake in this era. Too many people took advantage of the good faith of others lately and that has produced a society with very little public trust left.

nostrademons 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Different sets of people, and different audiences. The CEO / corporate executive crowd loves AI. Why? Because they can use it to replace workers. The general public / ordinary employee crowd hates AI. Why? Because they are the ones being replaced.

The startups, founders, VCs, executives, employees, etc. crowing about how they love AI are pandering to the first group of people, because they are the ones who hold budgets that they can direct toward AI tools.

This is also why people might want to remain anonymous when doing an AI experiment. This lets them crow about it in private to an audience of founders, executives, VCs, etc. who might open their wallets, while protecting themselves from reputational damage amongst the general public.

jstanley 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This is an unnecessarily cynical view.

People are excited about AI because it's new powerful technology. They aren't "pandering" to anyone.

tovej 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I have yet to meet anyone except managers be excited about LLM's or generative AI.

And the only people actually excited about the useful kinds of "AI", traditional machine learning, are researchers.

nananana9 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

You don' have to look past this very forum, most people here seem to be very positive about gen AI, when it comes to software development specifically.

Lots of folk here will happily tell you about how LLMs made them 10x more productive, and then their custom agent orchestrator made them 20x more productive on top of that (stacking multiplicatively of course, for a total of 200x productivity gain).

tovej 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

I assume those people are managers, have a vested interest in AI, or have only just started programming.

kuboble 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't know what is your bubble, but I'm a regular programmer and I'm absolutely excited even if a little uncomfortable. I know a lot of people who are the same.

staticassertion 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is a massive difference between saying "I use AI" and what the author of this bot is doing. I personally talk very little about the topic because I have seen some pretty extreme responses.

Some people may want to publicly state "I use AI!" or whatever. It should be unsurprising that some people do not want to be open about it.

toraway 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The more straightforward explanation for the original OP's question is that they realized what they were doing was reckless and given enough time was likely to blow up in their face.

They didn't hide because of a vague fear of being associated with AI generally (which there is no shortage of currently online), but to this specific, irresponsible manifestation of AI they imposed on an unwilling audience as an experiment.

alephnerd 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I feel like it depends on the platform and your location.

An anonomyous platform like Reddit and even HN to a certain extent has issues with bad faith commenters on both sides targeting someone they do not like. Furthermore, the MJ Rathburn fiasco itself highlights how easy it is to push divisive discourse at scale. The reality is trolls will troll for the sake of trolling.

Additionally, "AI" has become a political football now that the 2026 Primary season is kicking off, and given how competitive the 2026 election is expected to be and how political violence has become increasingly normalized in American discourse, it is easy for a nut to spiral.

I've seen less issues when tying these opinions with one's real world identity, becuase one has less incentive to be a dick due to social pressure.

hunterpayne 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

In an attention economy, trolling is a rewarded behavior. Show me the incentives and I will show you the outcome.

Tostino 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just wondering, who is it you think is contributing most to the normalization of political violence in the discourse?

Your answer to that can color how I read your post by quite a bit.

minimaxir 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

[retracted]

handoflixue 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Does it actually cut both ways? I see tons of harassment at people that use AI, but I've never seen the anti-AI crowd actively targeted.

nekal 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Anti-AI people are treated in a condescending way all the time. Then there is Suchir Balaij.

Since we are in a Matplotlib thread: People on the NumPy mailing list that are anti-AI are actively bullied and belittled while high ranking officials in the Python industrial complex are frolicking at AI conferences in India.

minimaxir 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's to a lesser extent that blurs the line between harassment and trolling: I've retracted my comment.

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tovej 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I see it all the time. If you're anti-AI your boss may call you a luddite and consider you not fit for promotion.

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