Not sure I understand this distinction.

> I’ve always wanted an ARM server in my homelab. But earlier, I either had to use an underpowered ARM system, or use Asahi...

What is stopping you using Mac with MacOS?

▲ tiew9Vii 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It’s not great as a headless server.

With full disk encryption enabled you need a keyboard and display attached at boot to unlock it. You then need to sign in to your account to start services. You can use an IP based KVM but that’s another thing to manage.

If you use Docker, it runs in a vm instead of native.

With a Linux based ARM box you can use full disk encryption, use drop bear to ssh in on boot to unlock disks, native docker, ability to run proxmox etc.

Mac minis/studio have potential to be great low powered home servers but Apple is not going down that route for consumers. I’d be curious if they are using their own silicon and own server oriented distro internally for some things.

▲ azov 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They fixed unlock in the last release:

"On a Mac with Apple silicon with macOS 26 or later, FileVault can be unlocked over SSH after a restart if Remote Login is turned on and a network connection is available."

https://support.apple.com/guide/security/managing-filevault-...

▲ hi_hi 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thanks for the reply. I'm looking to replace my aging mini pc with a mac mini, so I'm quite interested in any limitations here.

The full disk encryption I can live without. I'm assuming these limitations don't apply if it's disabled. [Ah, I just saw the other reply that this has now been fixed]

I was aware of the Docker in a VM issue. I haven't tested this out yet, but my expectation is this can be mitigated via https://github.com/apple/container ?

I appreciate any insights here.

	▲	justincormack an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Apple containers run in one vm per container

▲ 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲ unsnap_biceps 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

    The root of trust for Private Cloud Compute is our compute node: custom-built server hardware that brings the power and security of Apple silicon to the data center, with the same hardware security technologies used in iPhone, including the Secure Enclave and Secure Boot.

https://security.apple.com/blog/private-cloud-compute/

Granted, I don't know if it's really server oriented or if they're a bunch of iPhones on cards plugged into existing servers.

▲ geerlingguy 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Most likely wanting to run Linux natively. Only M1/M2 can fill that role with Asahi, and still not with 100% hardware compatibility.

On the flip side, an M4 mini is cheaper, faster, much smaller (with built in power supply) and much more efficient. Plus for most applications, they can run in a Linux container just as well.

	▲	hi_hi 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Thanks for the reply Jeff. This aligns with my understanding too. I'm close to purchasing a mac mini to replace my aging media pc. The core feature I want is to run microK8s natively, which I'm assuming the newish Mac containers will support.