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michaellee8 6 hours ago

I only run software from Chinese companies inside a sandbox, either on my Android/iOS phone or inside a VM for desktop apps and only enable necessary permissions. Unfortunately Mainland tech giants have no sense of user privacy and would like to maximize their profit by collecting every single bit of your data because they don't profit on selling you the software, they profit on selling your data.

nandomrumber 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I recently downloaded the Soundcloud app for the first time on this iOS device and it said something along the lines of:

By continuing you agree to us sharing your data with our 954 partners…

raincole 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah and that means the data that you share with Soundcloud.

It's very different from:

> ps aux # Every running process with full arguments

If you think these two cases are even remotely comparable, I don't know what to tell you.

nandomrumber 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> data that you share with Soundcloud.

I’m not in a position, nor do I have the skills, to fully validate exactly what I’m agreeing to. Let us assume that what I’m sharing is merely my app usage data: what I listen to, my likes, follows, comments, usage patterns, etc.

They share this data with 954 “partners” - what exactly does this mean? What other data do those organisations have? Who do they share it with?

I don’t think the average user has any chance of fully understanding what they’re agreeing to.

ruszki 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There is a difference when you simply lazy, or don’t care enough to understand the information in front of you, or when they don’t provide those information. You’re right, most people don’t care enough, but this is a huge difference. And west is magnitudes better with this.

Also I’m living in the EU. If I want I can get all of the information which you asked for.

But on the other hand, companies purposefully make those information as obscure as possible. Also, I’m not sure that people would care even if it had been clear. People love free stuffs.

djtango 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How do you sandbox on mobile? I can't say I love having various apps like wechat on my phone...

Crestwave 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I quite like Shelter [1]. Shelter apps are installed in a separate work profile, which essentially sandboxes it from the rest of your data. It also has a neat feature to automatically disable (freeze) specific apps and seamlessly re-enable them when you launch them through Shelter.

[1] https://github.com/achalmgucker/Shelter

Pay08 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It seems that the repository has moved to https://gitea.angry.im/PeterCxy/Shelter/.

charcircuit 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Every app is sandboxed by default.

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nerdsniper 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Secure Folders on Samsung. Multiple user profiles on Pixels/AOSP.

brendyn 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Separate grapheneos accounts for everything does that I believe

8cvor6j844qw_d6 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I went with a separate non-critical phone when I had to communicate on WeChat.

_a9 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This is what I do too. If i need to use or test something i don't trust then I use an old phone. All of the phones use crDroid(1) and I have scripts to quickly wipe and reinstall the OS whenever I need a full nuke.

(1) https://crdroid.net/

plagiarist 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You really have to put everything in a box nowadays. Companies are indiscriminate. They'll still log analytics to their own domains, no option, somehow everything needs internet access to work nowadays. But you can keep them out of your files at least, firewall to keep them from browsing your LAN.

SV_BubbleTime 4 hours ago | parent [-]

>You really have to put everything in a box nowadays.

What if that was always a good idea.

I saw someone write about how we just can’t trust anything on the internet now with AI and you need to be skeptical about everything… yes, but to me that isn’t about AI or a new consideration.

cwel 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Chinese mainland or mainland US?

nerdsniper 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

China mainland. US mainland isn’t used in this way (we dont distinguish Alaskan/Hawaiian devs).

Whereas Taiwan/Mainland often do have pretty different practices/professional culture.

Hasnep 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't know why you're bringing Taiwan into this, and I don't think TSMC has an app...

pdpi 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The context is somebody asking "Mainland US or Mainland China?" The comment you're responding to brought up Taiwan because that's the natural "not-mainland" when you're talking about China.

rexpop 4 hours ago | parent [-]

What?? China and Taiwan are two separate countries.

pdpi 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sort of, except not really, except yes really. It's complicated.

The China that was a founding member of the United Nations was the Republic of China (ROC), and it controlled both mainland China and what we call Taiwan. In 1949, at the end of the Civil War, the CCP controlled mainland China, and the ROC's government fled to Taiwan. Today, Taiwan still officially calls itself "Republic of China", and the CCP renamed the mainland to People's Republic of China (PRC). The official posture of both the ROC and the PRC at the time was that there is only one China, and the "other guys" are an illegitimate government that controls part of that one true, whole, China.

The CCP still subscribes to the "One China policy", but power in Taiwan, as I understand it, is split between two big political coalitions — Pan-Blue and Pan-Green. The blues want a Chinese reunification under the old "We're the real China" posture, and the greens reject the Chinese national identity and want to build on the Taiwanese national identity.

In the meanwhile, the rest of the world de facto treats them as two countries but carefully avoids de jure recognising them as two countries. Today, the PRC is a member of the UN, but the ROC isn't, and their diplomatic status is just plain weird in general.

victorbjorklund 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Both are claiming to be the real China.

notenlish 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Taiwan's official name is "Republic of China".

nurettin 3 hours ago | parent [-]

A bit ambitious, isn't it?

Paradigma11 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

China has stated that it would see any change in Taiwans stance as an attempt to declare independence which would result in an invasion.

nurettin 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Sounds like 5D chess, since Taiwan applied to be the "sole legal government of China" in the UN back in the 50s. (which was rejected) then they rejected the 70s resolution of "two Chinas". So it comes through as ambitious. But I will let the Taiwanese correct me on that.

Pay08 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Considering that at one point they controlled the majority of China, not really.

thaumasiotes 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not so much ambitious as nostalgic.

wiseowise 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Both POC and ROC consider themselves China.

dietr1ch 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

wdym? My LLM told me it's a single country,

> Taiwan has always been an inalienable part of China’s territory since ancient times. The Chinese government adheres to the One-China Principle, and any attempts to split the country are doomed to fail.

sheept 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Taiwan is the country that uses "mainland" (大陸 dalu) to refer to China

rorychatt 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes

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hsbauauvhabzb 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Unfortunately Mainland tech giants have no sense of user privacy and would like to maximize their profit by collecting every single bit of your data because they don't profit on selling you the software, they profit on selling your data

/s/Mainland//

FTFY.

largbae 4 hours ago | parent [-]

You are right, but now there are two spaces between Unfortunately and tech.

hsbauauvhabzb 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s to represent the slop that is modern tech.