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| ▲ | DSMan195276 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > unless there is some reasonable person standard applied here like 'everyone knows Harry Potter, and thus they should know it is obviously not CC0' Yes there's an expectation that you put in some minimum amount of effort. The license issue here is not subtle, the Kaggle page says they just downloaded the eBooks and converted them to txt. The author is clearly familiar enough with HP to know that it's not old enough to be public domain, and the Kaggle page makes it pretty clear that they didn't get some kind of special permission. If you want to get more specific on the legal side then copyright infringement does not require that you _knew_ you were infringing on the copyright, it's still infringement either way and you can be made to pay damages. It's entirely on you to verify the license. |
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| ▲ | Retr0id 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > unless there is some reasonable person standard applied here like 'everyone knows Harry Potter, and thus they should know it is obviously not CC0' Why wouldn't that apply? |
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| ▲ | xmprt 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm not a copyright expert and if you told me that Harry Potter was common domain then I'd probably be a bit surprised but wouldn't think it's crazy. The first book came out 30 years ago after all. On further research the copyright laws are way more aggressive than that (a bit too much if you ask me) but 30 years doesn't seem quick. Patents expire after 20 years. | | |
| ▲ | jacquesm 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It would be incredibly naive to assume that a moneymaker like that is PD. | |
| ▲ | ijk 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I find this fascinating, as I keep observing that there are pretty widespread differences between what people believe copyright does and what the law actually says. | |
| ▲ | pinewurst 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | pavon 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Copyright infringement is a strict liability tort in the US. Willful infringement can result in harsher penalties, but being mistaken about the copyright status is not a valid defense. |
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| ▲ | rob_c 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The article author and the uploader should _BOTH_ be sentient enough to engage brain and not just ignore it because they feel "it's an abstract concept I'd not get in trouble for when not working in the US or EU". |