Has OP been at a company where sales people do this? I have, and I can tell you they have not gotten far.

There was one PM at my ex-job that showed a dashboard for... well... i honestly didnt understand. I think it was some uptime checks. It broke during his presentation.

There's a company I hired at that "built an ERP in 5 days and is shipping the product in June". Same thing happened, it broke when presenting. Basic feature suggestions just returned a "Yes, we can do that!" (they meant they can tell Claude to do it, not that the product could do it).

Maybe at some point non-engineers can prompt build, but for now I'd say we're pretty safe. I think engineers give themselves too little credit. Being able to read code is an amazing tool that can only be sharpened through skill.

Lastly, I think I commented this ~2 years ago as well. If your product is vibe-codable and is replacing customers, it's a shit product. Similarly, if you can outsource your product on fiverr, its's a shit product.

I wonder what the game dev side has been like with agentic coding. Starting a project from scratch is usually a boring task, so I wonder if

- making a markdown file with all specs, details and plans - asking claude to search online and suggest some approaches

is a better alternative to doing the research yourself.