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_diyar 3 hours ago

I wonder if anybody at Apple is bold enough to lose face over this, given that there‘s a leadership shuffle underway.

bombcar an hour ago | parent | next [-]

There's no need to lose face to the vast majority of their customers, who don't read tech blogs or know who Siracusa is.

They can just boldy advance forwarded in a rearward direction and claim whatever they want about it. They've done it multiple times - every new iPhone and iOS has looked "the best and newest" and made the last one that looked the best and newest look old-hat.

joshuat an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They owned their mistake of removing all ports and function keys from MacBook Pros, so there is a chance. That being said, the UI degradation of macOS has been a slow but persistent march for about a decade now, and I don't imagine it will change now.

snarf21 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I thought the person responsible was already gone...

troupo 2 hours ago | parent [-]

People keep blaming Alan Dye as if he was the only one responsible.

Federighi—who's in charge of implementing this and was busy praising it on stage—is completely blameless. As are all other managers big and small at Apple.

dylan604 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

> and was busy praising it on stage

I mean, yeah, if you were picked to present "on stage" (when was the last time a stage was actually involved???) then of course you're going to be a team player and read the script enthusiastically. It's not like Federighi is going to present something "and now, here's the thing that I argued against doing, but was shouted down in all the meetings so here's this thing I don't like and you shouldn't feel obliged to like it either"

troupo 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

> I mean, yeah, if you were picked to present "on stage"

Ah yes. Federighi, the VP of Platform Development, literally responsible for the development of iOS and MacOs "was picked", and had no power to say no to the overwhelming power of the all-powerful head of design Alan Dye.

> but was shouted down in all the meetings

So, VP of Platforms was shouted down by whom exactly?

But sure, let's keep telling everyone that it was only Alan Dye who was responsible for Liquid Glass.

BTW I remind you it was the same Federighi who introduced the awful design changes in the MacOS a few years ago proudly presenting the new settings app and saying that everything will be meticulously designed in the final version (was it Sonoma? Can't remember).

dylan604 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

You've taken the wrong interpretation from what I was being somewhat snide about. I don't know the Apple hierarchy and who is actually responsible for what. The point was that anyone presenting for Apple is going to come across as having drunk the kool-aid, otherwise, they would not have been picked.

At the end of the day, I don't care who was/wasn't responsible for any of the decisions. I have no say in the matter, and unless you're part of the management at Apple, neither do you. Lots of people wrote the code to make whatever debacle has happened. They all have skin in the game.

lou1306 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They might manage to pin it all on Alan Dye, who recently jumped ship to Meta.