> I mean, yeah, if you were picked to present "on stage"

Ah yes. Federighi, the VP of Platform Development, literally responsible for the development of iOS and MacOs "was picked", and had no power to say no to the overwhelming power of the all-powerful head of design Alan Dye.

> but was shouted down in all the meetings

So, VP of Platforms was shouted down by whom exactly?

But sure, let's keep telling everyone that it was only Alan Dye who was responsible for Liquid Glass.

BTW I remind you it was the same Federighi who introduced the awful design changes in the MacOS a few years ago proudly presenting the new settings app and saying that everything will be meticulously designed in the final version (was it Sonoma? Can't remember).

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dylan604 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You've taken the wrong interpretation from what I was being somewhat snide about. I don't know the Apple hierarchy and who is actually responsible for what. The point was that anyone presenting for Apple is going to come across as having drunk the kool-aid, otherwise, they would not have been picked.

At the end of the day, I don't care who was/wasn't responsible for any of the decisions. I have no say in the matter, and unless you're part of the management at Apple, neither do you. Lots of people wrote the code to make whatever debacle has happened. They all have skin in the game.

	▲	troupo an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> I don't know the Apple hierarchy and who is actually responsible for what. Alan Dye was Vice President of Human Interface Design Federighi is Senior Vice President Software Engineering. Only Tim Cook and God are above him: https://www.apple.com/leadership/craig-federighi/ I mean, you're supposed to know at least some basic facts to engage in a conversation about this, right? He wasn't "picked to present" > The point was that anyone presenting for Apple is going to come across as having drunk the kool-aid, otherwise, they would not have been picked. You've missed my point entirely. Again: it wasn't just Alan Dye reapinsible for Liquid Glass. People keep pretending only Dye was responsible for it.