Good. It’s always insane to me that they get 1% of the iPhone CPU cost of ~$68 or something there around.

There was a lawsuit in 2020 or 2021 where some evidence was unsealed showing ARM gets 1% of the CPU cost. I can’t recall how that CPU cost was calculated - but I believe that was a part of their deal through the early 30’s. That’s less than a dollar per iPhone.

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lysace 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not that I wouldn't want Apple to pay ARM more, but,

a) Apple is getting really good at switching CPU architectures when needed.

b) Don't they already have a forever licence to the ARM ISA (since the 90s/Newton) as well as a substantial in-house design team? I guess the renegotiations are about future/roadmapped ARM archictural enhancements.

It would be sad if there was a substantial fork of the arm64 ISA.

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faragon 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's "fair": ARM takes 1% of the iPhone CPU, i.e., less than 0.1% of the total phone price, while Apple takes 30% of the apps in the iStore

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thisislife2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Spot on! The 1% is indeed absolutely reasonable when you consider the 30% or so Apple tries to leech of from both developers and its user base.

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hollerith 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

--and about 50% of the total price of an iPhone.

	▲	vlovich123 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah it’s like people don’t understand the concept of value addition. An ARM CPU by itself is worth less than what it is with the software, app ecosystem, dual sided market place Apple has built. While I think a 30% mark up is a tad expensive, it’s not hugely out of line with what retail store fronts generally charge to begin with. You can argue that virtual store fronts don’t have the same overheads, but you’ve still got some physical servers to maintain and engineers to pay to keep it running daily vs a physical store front doesn’t have those challenges and expenses.