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| ▲ | bsimpson 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| I can say that to a certain degree about Hacker News too. Still often for comments here, but certain topics devolve into a bad subreddit quickly. The ethos of the rules hasn't scaled with the site. |
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| ▲ | the_biot 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They don't actually publish the comments under the article, only a link. I've long suspected sites doing that are fully aware of how shit the comment section is, and try to hide it from casual viewers while keeping the nutjob gallery happy. Phoronix comes to mind. |
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| ▲ | mbreese 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This goes back a lot farther with Ars. They done this for years because their comments section is driven by forum software. The main conversations happen in the forums. They are then reformatted for a the comment view. So, their main goal wasn’t to hide the comments, but push people to forums where there is a better format for conversation. At least that’s how it used to work. | |
| ▲ | Sharlin 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Most mainstream news sites around here have by now hidden the comment section somehow, either making it folded by default or just moving it to the bottom of the page below "related news" sections and the like. |
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| ▲ | g947o 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Hard agree.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/06/meta-debuts-playstati... is an example I remember. The subject matter of the is not controversial (just another Game Pass like subscription), but the comment section is full of -- yes you've guessed it -- Meta BAD! There is absolutely no meaningful discussion of the service itself. I mostly stopped paying attention to the comment section after that, and Ars in general. |
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| ▲ | murderfs 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | You see the same sort of thing around here with people complaining about the death of Google Reader on anything that even vaguely mentions Google. | | |
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| ▲ | raddan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The switch to their newest forum software seems to discourage any kind of actual conversation. If I recall correctly, the last iteration was also unthreaded, but somehow it was easier for a back-and-forth to develop. Now it is basically just reactions-- like YouTube comments (which, ironically, is actually threaded). Is HN really the last remaining forum for science and technology conversations? If so... very depressing. |
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| ▲ | badgersnake an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > Is HN really the last remaining forum for science and technology conversations? Honestly, HN isn’t very good anymore either. The internet is basically all trolling, bots and advertising. Often all at once. Oh and scams, there’s also scams. | |
| ▲ | JohnnyMarcone an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | lobste.rs is smaller but can have good discussion. |
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| ▲ | mikkupikku 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Try reading Slashdot these days and it's the same story. I stopped reading regularly when cmdrtaco left but still check in occasionally out of misplaced nostalgia or something.. The comment section is like a time capsule from the 00s, the same ideas and arguments have been echoing back and forth there for years, seemingly losing soul and nuance with each echo. Bizarre, and sad. |
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| ▲ | hed 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I can only conclude it’s what they want at this point |
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| ▲ | kotaKat 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They should get rid of the fairly extremely prominent badges of years-on-the-forum and number-of-comments. Maybe that'd help quell some of the echo down, because every comment section on Ars articles is 10+ year old accounts all arguing with each other. |
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| ▲ | archerx 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yea but doing that would decrease engagement and engagement is the only metric that matters! /s |
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| ▲ | ifwinterco 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Yeah it's like a rogues' gallery of terminally online midwits over there |
