| ▲ | michaelt 7 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. Do platforms want to counter it? Seems to me with an unreliable video selfie age verification: * Reasonable people with common sense don't need to upload scans of their driving licenses and passports * The platform gets to retain users without too much hassle * Porn site users are forced to create accounts; this enables tracking, boosting ad revenue and growth numbers. * Politicians get to announce that they have introduced age controls. * People who claimed age checks wouldn't invade people's privacy don't get proven wrong * Teens can sidestep the age checks and retain their access; teens trying to hide their porn from their parents is an age-old tradition. * Parents don't see their teens accessing porn. They feel reassured without having to have any awkward conversations or figure out any baffling smartphone parental controls. Everyone wins. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ulrikrasmussen 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think you forgot : * authorities get to selectively crack down on sites for not implementing "proper" age verification. The sites never had a widespread problem with grooming to begin with but just so happened to have a lot of other activity that the authorities didn't like. Having everyone operate in a gray area is dangerous and threatens the rule of law. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | nofriend 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It depends. If the law says "you must perform such-and-such steps to verify age" then no, they don't care if you can counter it. If the law says "you must use an approach that is at least x% effective" then yes they do care if enough people counter it. We already had a half-assed solution, where websites would require you to press the button that says "I am over 18". Clearly somebody decided that wasn't good enough. That person is not going to stop until good enough is achieved. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | internetter 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Until somebody (likely a politician or anti-porn advocacy group) decides to poke the bear and ruin it | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | raincole 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Everyone wins. Only if the lawmakers agreed. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | tjoff 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If we normalize this shit everyone will lose. > Reasonable people with common sense don't need to upload scans of their driving licenses and passports Cue random bans. > People who claimed age checks wouldn't invade people's privacy don't get proven wrong And? Is that supposed to change anything? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ge96 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Porn site users are forced to create accounts I'm curious the sites that enforce this like 'your state has banned...' what traffic loss they have. Because I'm not gonna sign up for a porn site lmao, the stigma | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||