| ▲ | arcologies1985 8 hours ago |
| They can't feasibly do this in the US since many people don't have drivers licenses or passports. |
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| ▲ | jsheard 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Don't you have to be over 18 to get a credit card in the US? How many wouldn't be able to present a CC or ID? |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Age verification requires a document that can be matched to your ID, such as by the photo on your ID card. Credit cards don't have photos. > How many Americans wouldn't be able to present a CC or ID? The number of Americans who don't have a government issued photo ID is estimated around 1%. The number gets larger if you start going by technicalities like having an expired ID that hasn't been renewed yet. The intersection between the 1% of 18+ Americans who don't have an ID and those who want to fully verify their Discord accounts is probably a very small number. | |
| ▲ | Gigachad 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | At least in Australia you absolutely can have a debit card under 18 and it’s extremely common for adults to not have a credit card. | | |
| ▲ | jsheard 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | > At least in Australia you absolutely can have a debit card under 18 Same in the UK, but Steam uses credit cards for age verification there and refuses if you provide a debit card instead. Evidently the payment backends can tell credit and debit apart. | | |
| ▲ | monocasa 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Evidently the payment backends can tell credit and debit apart. Yeah those are parallel systems for reasons that amount to technical debt. |
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| ▲ | Denatonium 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Only to have your own card. You can be an authorized user on a credit card even if you're under 18. | | |
| ▲ | jsheard 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ah right. That's no use for verification then, unless there's a way for payment gateways to distinguish the primary user from their authorized users. |
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| ▲ | carcabob 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Those without driver's licenses or passports can get a state ID card instead, if I'm not mistaken. A pain, but an option. |
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| ▲ | edm0nd 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| wat. the majority of Americans have a DL, ID, or Passport. What a silly thing to say. For DL alone: >Data indicates that approximately 84% to 91% of all Americans hold a driver's license, with roughly 237.7 million licensed drivers in the U.S. as of 2023. Add in an ID and Passport and we are likely closer to 99% |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yep. You basically cannot function in legal society without an ID. If you are an adult and don't have ID you are intentionally trying to live a cloaked life and it won't be very easy. |
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| ▲ | buzzerbetrayed 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Yeah that’s not true. It’s a lie. And we all know why it’s a lie. Adults in the US with ID is 99% |
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| ▲ | bikezen 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | *Citation needed > Nearly 21 million voting-age U.S. citizens do not have a current (non-expired) driver’s
license. Just under 9%, or 20.76 million people, who are U.S. citizens aged 18 or older
do not have a non-expired driver’s license. Another 12% (28.6 million) have a non-
expired license, but it does not have both their current address and current name. For
these individuals, a mismatched address is the largest issue. Ninety-six percent of
those with some discrepancy have a license that does not have their current address,
1.5% have their current address but not their current name, and just over 2% do not have
their current address or current name on their license. Additionally, just over 1% of adult
U.S. citizens do not have any form of government-issued photo identification, which
amounts to nearly 2.6 million people. From https://cdce.umd.edu/sites/cdce.umd.edu/files/pubs/Voter%20I... | | |
| ▲ | Aurornis 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That seems like a good citation, but it supports the 99% number above > Additionally, just over 1% of adult U.S. citizens do not have any form of government-issued photo identification, which amounts to nearly 2.6 million people. The rest of the statistic is about driver's licenses specifically, including technicalities like expiration dates and address changes. The online ID check for age verification don't care about the address part anyway, in my experience. If someone has an expired drivers' license or they changed their name and haven't updated their IDs, they have bigger problems than age-verifying their Discord accounts. | | |
| ▲ | Brybry 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | My driver's license was expired for 8 years until last year. I wasn't driving so the pressure to renew it was very low. I actually only renewed it to get medical care and because renewing the license was only a little more expensive than getting an ID-only card. It did prevent me from using some porn sites because my state requires ID verification but many sites just ignore the requirement so I just didn't use the sites that required ID. |
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| ▲ | gjs278 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | jtmarl1n 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Somehow they don’t have trouble getting an ID when they want to buy alcohol | | |
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