| ▲ | shevy-java 4 hours ago |
| I don't see how what has been described here as "the system works as intended". A free state should not be able to sniff after people for made up reasons. |
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| ▲ | MetaWhirledPeas an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| Re-read the first few sentences of his post. > if there is a valid warrant or subpoena |
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| ▲ | philipallstar 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In the sense that all reasons are made up, I suppose that might be true. But while deporting illegal immigrants for no other reason is totally fine, deporting the ones that also have a criminal conviction is definitely not made up reasons. |
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| ▲ | fakedang 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, and your point? ICE has already descended into detaining anyone, literally anyone, because they have quotas to meet. They seized a white Irishman last October who had a valid work permit and was just about to head to his green card interview. This is Gestapo all over again. | | |
| ▲ | JuniperMesos 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | That guy had been overstaying a tourist visa for something like 17 years, and only started the green card process in April 2025. I don't think people who have overstayed tourist visas for 17 years should be eligible for any kind of permanent residency in the US, and would support laws making it impossible for someone in his position to get a green card or a work permit. The fact that he is a white Irishman is legally irrelevant and enforcing immigration law in a race-neutral way is pretty un-Gestapo-like behavior. | |
| ▲ | reliabilityguy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | baconbrand 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I listed asylum seekers and visa holders in detention but they are definitely grabbing citizens too. Usually they do not hold them for very long. This happened at the Target I shop at: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/ice-immigrat... Two teenagers just doing their jobs, dogpiled by roughly four adult men, beaten up and released hours later. One of them was just dropped off at the Walmart down the street, the other they released at the federal building they’re working out of. | | | |
| ▲ | baconbrand 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | https://youtu.be/e4X0hI40a8A Just a handful of examples from last year. As a resident of Minneapolis I can assure you it is much, much worse than these few examples. Are you not familiar with Liam Conejo Ramos? Or Kilmar Abrego Garcia? Just two other high profile cases, but this is far more prevalent than any reporting has outlined. Three of Liam’s classmates were also “mistakenly” shipped to Texas and returned. At least one of his classmates, a documented asylum seeker like the rest, is still in Dilley. | |
| ▲ | michaelteter an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Probably referring to this: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/seamus-cul... |
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| ▲ | philipallstar 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | BugsJustFindMe 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > We lock up innocent people all the time, as the court system is imperfect. That doesn't make something the Gestapo. Correct. The methods, the scale, and the targets do. Refusing to ever show any identification or proof of orders at all when that definitionally makes them a secret police does. Repeatedly violating federal court orders does (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46965333). Repeatedly violating habeas corpus rights does. Assaulting people in the streets merely for witnessing does. Let us not forget that a woman was violently shoved backward to the ground while she was backing up in the lead-up to the killing of Alex Pretti, and the government's immediate response was repeated shameless lies and hiding or destroying evidence, just like they did with the killing of Renee Nicole Good, just like they did with the killing of Geraldo Lunas Campos, just like they did with Alberto Castañeda Mondragón, ... The list doesn't end. It's very weird of you to just ignore all of that. |
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| ▲ | wombat-man an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The archive link isn't working for me atm. But tech companies should be complying with subpoenas from governments in countries they would like to operate in. I don't like what is happening in the US either, but to me this feels like a problem with the electorate. Maybe it's possible for Google to provide some of these services without actually having access to the data under subpoena, but I don't know enough about what services they were using or how they work. |
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| ▲ | lenerdenator 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Ultimately, whether or not people are able to do anything involves consequences for their actions. There's the "three" boxes of liberty that are meant to give a framework for how humans in a society are to introduce consequences to state actors who abuse rights: the soap box, the ballot box, and the jury box. So we need to start using at least those three to prevent human rights abuses with regard to search warrants. |
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| ▲ | Curiositiy 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You obviously don't live in the EU, UK. |
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| ▲ | reddozen 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You can't write rules against bad actors. There will always be some legal loophole a bad president can invent to exploit. if not for administrative warrants we would see some other creative (read: illegal) use of executive power. The only option is to not elect someone that doesn't respect rule of law. And since I know some enlightened "centrist" will play the both sides game: What's 1 thing any previous president has done equivalent to violating posse comitatus. |
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| ▲ | Nasrudith 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I strongly disagree. You should always write rules under the assumption it will get in the hands of the worst people. If there is a 'become god-emperor' lever in your supposedly democratic government system then it is a shitty system. |
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