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dchi04 5 hours ago

A lot of whining here about how this is an imperfect response to the issue of children being exploited on Discord / using the platform to engage with inappropriate content.

Until someone offers up something better, I take these types of initiatives from social media platforms as huge wins. Ignoring the problem will not make it better. We've been ignoring it for about 20 years now, and it's only gotten worse.

OkayPhysicist 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The thing stopping kids from getting "exploited on Discord" ought to be the same thing that stops them from stabbing each other with pencils. Raise your kids better, and stop expecting everyone else to tolerate your failure to do so.

dchi04 3 hours ago | parent [-]

A majority of Americans are in favor of age verification.

https://www.edweek.org/technology/not-meant-for-children-adu...

Have you ever considered that it's the other way around? Maybe the security needs of a minority shouldn't block policies with wide support that will protect children online?

Either way, the whole "parent better" argument doesn't work. It's victim-blaming. Thousands of kids download Discord every day to play video games with their friends only to eventually be invited to servers which host explicit content / bad actors that we know can permanently harm them. A bunch of software engineers on HN may understand the risks that online platforms pose to their children, but much of the population cannot/will not fully comprehend this. We should not allow their children to experience terrible things just because their parents aren't read up about which platforms will gladly allow creeps to interact with or message their kids.

The answer here is simple: if you don't like age verification, move on to a different service. Creating spaces where there are rules and order on the internet for those that are vulnerable is much more important than you not wanting to upload a picture of your ID to a platform that you're using completely voluntarily.

OkayPhysicist 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If parents can't figure out how to block their kids from accessing inappropriate content online, they shouldn't be giving them smartphones and computers. Diminishing adult spaces for adults in order to make them safer for kids is how you dumb down the entire world.

dchi04 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The entire point is that it's not dumbing down the entire world. It's dumbing it down for kids that fail age verification.

enforcer0912 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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ncr100 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wish I could simply show Discord my adult genitals as evidence of my adult-hood.

The sharing of my ID with a known incompetent company & business seems like a risk they're foisting upon me.

dchi04 an hour ago | parent [-]

You are not going to be liable if your information is leaked. They will be.

peterlk 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The solution is parents! Stop making your bad parenting my problem!

otterley an hour ago | parent | next [-]

How has it become your "problem"? Do you believe everyone should be able to get into any location anywhere worldwide without screening?

dchi04 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you believe that all parents are intelligent, informed, and put their children's well-being before everything, you are unfortunately wrong about society. Kids don't deserve to suffer just because they have neglectful parents.

Discord, on the other hand, should be at least somewhat responsible for the interactions of children (which they profit off of) on their platform.

And finally, you, a sentient adult with free will, can use another platform. Not your problem unless you want to make it yours, which is the response of choice on this thread.

pwndByDeath 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Be responsible for your spawn and don't be a weenie about asserting boundaries for them.