| ▲ | triceratops 2 hours ago |
| Why don't we let people who like living in dense housing build and live in dense housing? And leave those who don't in peace? Right now we only do the second one but make the first one illegal. |
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| ▲ | apparent 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Sure, we do let people do that. The thing that's objectionable is when a suburban neighborhood is rezoned by people who live hundreds of miles away, and developers get the green light to build towers there. Why do people who don't live in a place think they're entitled to change the zoning of that place? What's to stop them from saying that it should now be zoned for industrial, and a chemical treatment plant can open up next door to a school? It's the same line of thinking. |
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| ▲ | triceratops 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Why do people who don't live in a place think they're entitled to change the zoning of that place? Why do people who don't own the land think they're entitled to tell the actual owners what they can build? > It's the same line of thinking. It is not. This is a made up slippery slope. |
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| ▲ | colechristensen 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| >And leave those who don't in peace? That's not what's happening. People who are living like that are being invaded by high density people who want to live in high density in their communities. They want to take over and force people out. And generally they just want to flip. Find somewhere cheap and make it expensive to make money by lowering everybody's quality of life and calling it progress. |
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| ▲ | triceratops 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > They want to take over and force people out. How do you "force" people out? The existing owners have to sell land, and once they do the new owners have as much right to decide as the other residents. Are there thugs going door to door forcing sellers to sign papers? Allowing higher density construction doesn't mean higher density must get built there. That's still up to the property owner to decide. True freedom. | | |
| ▲ | colechristensen an hour ago | parent [-] | | Property taxes and cost of living causing people who own to be priced out and forced to sell their homes because of bankruptcy. And the occasional eminent domain. | | |
| ▲ | iamnothere an hour ago | parent [-] | | Property taxes? Not in California (prop 13). | | |
| ▲ | colechristensen an hour ago | parent [-] | | and the YIMBY (but really somebody else's back yard) yell loudly about this property tax carveout and how terrible it is for their density goals | | |
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