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seneca 2 hours ago

"Antifa" is understood as violent communist street thugs by most huge swaths of people. You may not think that's accurate, but that's the definition he is calling to mind.

cocacola1 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Only to those of a particular political persuasion. Every group has their own shorthand.

dfxm12 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They're not understood, but propagandized that way.

DavidPiper 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Is there a difference for the incurious?

(Though I agree with you)

burnte 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's the intent but most people know it's not true. It's right up there with "woke" and "progressive" as generic, shapeless, boogeyman words. No real meaning besides "something bad".

xp84 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Pretty sure most who claim the mantle of “Antifa” would welcome that Communist label, and plenty would endorse violence if it’s against the “right” people, so if the shoe fits…

amanaplanacanal 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Self defense is a kind of violence, I guess.

some_random an hour ago | parent [-]

They're kinda famous for punching people (physically) unprovoked at this point. There was a whole discourse around it that comes back up pretty regularly, I don't know how you could miss it.

etchalon 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Punching people who think you and your friends should be killed just for existing is a form of self-defense.

Refreeze5224 15 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Punching normal average people? Or punching Nazis?

idiotsecant 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The air quotes around 'right' are interesting there. Yes, violence against Nazis and Fascists is acceptable. Do you disagree? I thought it was pretty much settled, we did a whole world war about it.

schmidtleonard 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

WWII revisionism is back in fashion these days, even in spaces that historically would have been only mildly to the right of center.

some_random an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The trouble with that logic is that we also had a fair few wars against Communists.

riotnrrd 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

We'll worry about that when the Presidency and both houses of Congress are controlled by the Communist Party

lo_zamoyski 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"A majority of individuals involved are anarchists, communists, and socialists, although some social democrats also participate in the antifa movement. The name antifa and the logo with two flags representing anarchism and communism are derived from the German antifa movement." [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)