| ▲ | xp84 4 hours ago |
| Pretty sure most who claim the mantle of “Antifa” would welcome that Communist label, and plenty would endorse violence if it’s against the “right” people, so if the shoe fits… |
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| ▲ | amanaplanacanal 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Self defense is a kind of violence, I guess. |
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| ▲ | some_random 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | They're kinda famous for punching people (physically) unprovoked at this point. There was a whole discourse around it that comes back up pretty regularly, I don't know how you could miss it. | | |
| ▲ | otikik an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Ah, you mean when they punched the nazi guy? | |
| ▲ | etchalon an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Punching people who think you and your friends should be killed just for existing is a form of self-defense. | | |
| ▲ | seneca 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Punching people who think you and your friends should be killed just for existing is a form of self-defense. This is such an incredibly radicalized and detached from reality statement. It's genuinely scary that there are people who think this way. |
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| ▲ | Refreeze5224 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Punching normal average people? Or punching Nazis? |
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| ▲ | idiotsecant 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The air quotes around 'right' are interesting there. Yes, violence against Nazis and Fascists is acceptable. Do you disagree? I thought it was pretty much settled, we did a whole world war about it. |
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| ▲ | schmidtleonard 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | WWII revisionism is back in fashion these days, even in spaces that historically would have been only mildly to the right of center. | |
| ▲ | xp84 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Problem is "Nazi" = "Anyone who disagrees with me" in most Left-friendly spaces today. For instance: https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/was-charlie-kirk-a... None of his views had anything to do with Naziism but failure to fall in line with all of the Left's current positions makes one "a Nazi" to them. And yes, much the same way as right-wing extremists like to paint all 'liberals' as "gun grabbing Marxists." The difference is you can find a lot more liberals who would happily glorify Marx than you can find Americans of any party who would glorify the Nazi regime or its acts. In case it's unclear, I do not support Nazis either. | | | |
| ▲ | some_random 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The trouble with that logic is that we also had a fair few wars against Communists. | | |
| ▲ | riotnrrd 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | We'll worry about that when the Presidency and both houses of Congress are controlled by the Communist Party |
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| ▲ | lo_zamoyski 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| "A majority of individuals involved are anarchists, communists, and socialists, although some social democrats also participate in the antifa movement. The name antifa and the logo with two flags representing anarchism and communism are derived from the German antifa movement." [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States) |
