| ▲ | Guinea worm on track to be 2nd eradicated human disease; only 10 cases in 2025(arstechnica.com) |
| 129 points by bookofjoe 4 hours ago | 53 comments |
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| ▲ | atdt 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Please share this with someone who doesn't know the story yet. Ingenuity alone can't save our species. We also need the will to do good. We are living through a moment of deep cynicism about our ability to solve existential problems. Let this be a reminder of what we are capable of. |
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| ▲ | carlosft 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > We are living through a moment of deep cynicism about our ability to solve existential problems. I have no doubt that we can create a really miraculous future. I am just increasingly pessimistic about our collective desire to do so. | | |
| ▲ | jackyinger 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Cultivating optimism is the first step. Optimism is irrational, you can just choose to have it (of course thinking about good things that have happened helps). Optimism is the precondition for doing good. So what if there’s a low collective will at the moment. Do your part to be part to grow the collective will to good. Go volunteer for a good cause (food bank, community organizations, etc.), donate to good causes, just be friendly to other people you see. | | |
| ▲ | quesera an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > Cultivating optimism is the first step I agree with this, and I recognize it as the good intentions behind faith communities. People are (statistically) terrible at creating optimism on a blank canvas. They need narratives and common points of understanding. And then the other side of human nature gets to take its swing at the mass of optimistic people with a shared belief system. :) | |
| ▲ | kiba an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Wouldn't say optimism is irrational. There are good things happening in the world in spite of all the bad things in the world. Pessimism that leads to a self fulfilling prophecy is irrational, but you still need a win. A win is fuel. | | |
| ▲ | quesera an hour ago | parent [-] | | Choosing a belief that is more desirable than the most likely case, is by definition irrational, and can be called optimistic. Choosing a belief that is less desirable than the most likely, is equally irrational, clearly pessimistic, and often self-fulfilling. So the ideal belief system is irrational (optimistic) but only to a chosen and realistic extent. Somewhere between Pollyanna and Eeyore, but more P than E. And as irrational psychologies go, moderate-P is by far the more successful of the two. |
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| ▲ | mmooss an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Optimism is irrational That is an argument of the pessimists and enemies of the good. Pessimism is clearly irrational: Look at the world we live in; look what humanity has achieved since the Enlightenment, and in the last century - freedom, peace, and prosperity have swept the world. Diseases are wiped out, we visit the moon and (robotically) other planets, the Internet, etc. etc. etc. To be pessimistic about our ability to build a better world is bizarre. | | |
| ▲ | pluralmonad an hour ago | parent [-] | | Pessimism and optimism are philosophical perspectives (dispositions) and do not necessarily have anything do with doing good or doing bad. Why do you think optimism only precipitates good things? Surely you can imagine a situation (or many) where thinking more positively about a situation than the data warrants leads to bad outcomes? |
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| ▲ | secos an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | You do not need optimism to do good. It helps motivate, but its not required. |
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| ▲ | satvikpendem an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | As they say, pessimists sound smart, optimists get things done (and make money along the way, if that is the goal). | |
| ▲ | D-Coder an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | For news about things that are going right, I suggest https://fixthenews.com/. You can get a free weekly email about progress in energy and the environment, national economies, health and medicine, crime etc (or pay for a longer weekly email). | |
| ▲ | crancher 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That you have the mental capacity/structures/language to form the thought should indicate the trajectory you're caught up within. It's disappointing that everything not's resolved during the blip you're you but even a moderately long view provides evidence for optimism. | |
| ▲ | titzer an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | It will rewire the hard sacrifice of limiting individual wealth to less than a billion dollars per person. Trajectory of present indicates we won't be doing that soon. | | |
| ▲ | lostlogin an hour ago | parent [-] | | It would be interesting to know what portion of people disagree with your suggested cap, and why. | | |
| ▲ | ge96 an hour ago | parent [-] | | It is interesting, I wonder is it possible to get so rich and be kind, probably examples. I'm the kind poor person myself even what money I have I have given too much of it away. In which case I'm a dumbass for doing so but yeah. | | |
| ▲ | lostlogin an hour ago | parent [-] | | The Gates Foundation used to be something that gave me hope. The recent revelations have coloured that. Maybe I need to to separate the art from the artist? | | |
| ▲ | tialaramex 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > Maybe I need to to separate the art from the artist? Yes. We die but the consequences of our actions resonate indefinitely. Ideas make good idols and people do not. Better Родина-мать зовёт! (a statue in Stalingrad approximately "Motherland [ie Russia] calls") and Liberty, which are both definitely statues about ideas than the Lincoln Memorial for example, or even arguably the "Statue of Unity" which is named for Unity but in practice is explicitly a statue of a specific man - Sardar Patel. | |
| ▲ | ge96 37 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah... I still listen to Drake for ex |
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| ▲ | satvikpendem an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is a Western-centric and specifically Americentric viewpoint. There are plenty in the East for example who are not cynical about their ability to solve existential problems and are instead plowing ahead on solving them, such as massive investment in non-petroleum-based energy sources like solar, wind, and nuclear. | | |
| ▲ | wbobeirne 29 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Pessimism is not a uniquely American viewpoint. "South Korea is second from bottom on our list in terms of the proportion of people saying their country “is heading in the right direction”, with only 15% stating so. A similar sentiment is also felt about the economy. Pessimism is usually the standard for South Korea; however, their economic indicator score has been particularly low in recent times, with just 8% believing the economy is “good”." https://www.ipsos.com/en-ch/what-worries-world-may-2025?utm_... | | |
| ▲ | satvikpendem 25 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I'm not talking about how people feel about their life or country but about the concrete actions their governments are taking to improve their quality of life. For example, they all have high speed rail, something that is essentially impossible to build in the US, whether it be due to budget, regulations or sheer political will. |
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| ▲ | MPSimmons 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I was going to say, "finally something that ivermectin can help with!" except https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7974686/ |
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| ▲ | gus_massa 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Ivermectin is a very good dewormer! Most 2020 crap studies were easy to make because ivermectin was already distributed to big populations as a dewormer. I'm the guy that every time someone calls it a good horse dewormer I reply:
"And a good human dewormer too!" | |
| ▲ | tim333 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | It also poisons any bed bugs feeding on you. | | |
| ▲ | david-gpu 19 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Anything that annihilates bed bugs is a net positive to the world. Drinking poison out of spite for those sons of the devil is well within reason. To hell with those infralings. |
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| ▲ | fanatic2pope 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Thanks, Carter! https://www.cartercenter.org/programs/guinea-worm/ |
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| ▲ | palmotea 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The free market could never accomplish something like this. |
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| ▲ | tim333 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Maybe not just the free market but the Carter Center funding was 7% governments, 90% foundations, corporations and individuals. (fye 2024) | |
| ▲ | marcosdumay 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | We nobody could ever achieve something like this without a free market taking care of most things. | |
| ▲ | bugeats 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Consider what you might choose to do for the public good with the 30% of your income that is taken from you in the name of the public good. Philanthropy is a predictable outcome of an individual having met the basic needs of Maslow’s hierarchy. Consider how many more philanthropists would be created by returning this 30% back to individual discernment. | | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > Consider what you might choose to do… Emphasis on might. Evidence suggests "a giant boat and some helicopters" is the more likely result. | |
| ▲ | harladsinsteden 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Which 30% are you talking about? Taxes? If so: From what do you build things like infrastructure? | | |
| ▲ | Loughla 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | If you've ever worked with a church you know that donation and good will is not a way to ensure anything is structurally sound. Donations always come with asterisks. Nobody wants to make sure the roof is shingled and doesn't leak but everybody leaves money for new stained glass windows or the organ that nobody knows how to play. |
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| ▲ | janalsncm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Well my taxes go to roads, healthcare for people who can’t afford, schools, and the fire department. I would consider those public goods. | |
| ▲ | hobs 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | A lot less because they'd be dead from easily preventable diseases in their water supply? | |
| ▲ | lostlogin an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The billionaires out there are being revealed as paedophiles quicker than they are solving world health problems. I’d prefer not to rely on them. | |
| ▲ | palmotea an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Consider how many more philanthropists would be created by returning this 30% back to individual discernment. Many, many fewer than you assume. Libertarians like to make lots of good-sounding promises to justify their favored radical policy, but it's bullshit and the promises don't pan out when tested [1]. By that point, the libertarian has gotten what he wanted and moved on. [1] Or their policy was already tried and already failed, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46876387, leading to reforms to fix the problems that they're now mad about and want to undo. | |
| ▲ | mmooss an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Is there evidence that it happens? And that it serves the public good, not the personal interests of the wealthy? Do we need another $100 million given to a health program accessible only to the wealthy, or funding for public health? To a business school or art museum, or to arts programs for public schools? Philanthropy is anti-democratic; the people don't choose what is important to support, the wealthy few do. You can see that in the relatively poor public goods in the US, which has much lower taxes relative to peers. |
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| ▲ | hulitu 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > only 10 cases in 2025 10 _known_ cases |
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| ▲ | cubefox 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sounds like there is still some way to go: > To fully eradicate the disease, cases in animals (infected by the same species of worm) must also be wiped out. In 2025, animal cases were detected in Chad (147 cases), Mali (17), Cameroon (445), Angola (70), Ethiopia (1), and South Sudan (3). |
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| ▲ | jasongill an hour ago | parent [-] | | Isn't fewer than 1000 infected animals in an area that covers 6 countries pretty good? Obviously there's still work to do, but I would have expected hundreds of thousands or millions of animal cases if it was an epidemic |
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| ▲ | giantfrog 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| RFK Jr: “Not so fast” |
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| ▲ | poulpy123 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The decrease from 3.5 million cases to only 15 is impressive but I don't see how we can eradicate zoonoses |
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| ▲ | bawolff 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | From the article it looks like they are working on that too > To fully eradicate the disease, cases in animals (infected by the same species of worm) must also be wiped out. In 2025, animal cases were detected in Chad (147 cases), Mali (17), Cameroon (445), Angola (70), Ethiopia (1), and South Sudan (3). | | |
| ▲ | MrDunham 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Those are bonkers (low) numbers compared to the 3.5M (human?) cases if I'm to believe the GPs comment. It's also crazy how much Mother Theresa's quote rings true, even in reverse ("If I look at the mass, I will never act. If I look at the one, I will.") When I initially read 3.5M cases, I thought "wow, that's a lot", and somehow the 445 animal cases in Cameroon felt (at first) more real and similarly "a lot". No comment other than interesting how our human brains work and distort how numbers "feel". Once my rational brain kicked in, realized that's over 5,000 years for the current number of animal cases to match the former number of human cases. The future is awesome. | | |
| ▲ | esafak an hour ago | parent [-] | | If you halve the cases every year you'll eradicate it in a generation. |
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| ▲ | Insanity 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | But the question would be how many more go undetected in those animals. (I.e if wild animals carry it, how accurate are these numbers). | | |
| ▲ | poulpy123 8 minutes ago | parent [-] | | glancing at the wikipedia page on the topic it seems that it is limited to dogs, cat and baboons, and animal hosts have been only proved in the 2010s, so I guess they are unlikely to become infected by the parasite |
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| ▲ | 0cf8612b2e1e 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It was a somewhat recent discovery that there were animal reservoirs escaping detection. Carter had hoped to outlive the worm, but it was thought that the animal pools were going to make full eradication take an additional 20 years. |
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| ▲ | gus_massa 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think the worm reproduce better in humans, so if we can cut humans the population in other animals will hopefully decrease. (And probably add a plan to identify and capture infected animals, to ensure this.) | | |
| ▲ | poulpy123 7 minutes ago | parent [-] | | You are right. Wikipedia write it is limited to dogs, cat and baboons, and that animal hosts have been only proved in the 2010s, so I guess they are unlikely to become infected by the parasite |
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| ▲ | tialaramex 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It probably helps that the worms don't care. That is, a worm whose ancestors lived in dogs can live in a human no problem and vice versa. If you eradicate GWD in your region but, eh, not in dogs, well people in your region keep getting GWD anyway. But if you eliminate it entirely you're just done. So that's a strong incentive to ensure the latter. Most drastic options are probably available in the afflicted countries than would be acceptable in many places that haven't had GWD for a hundred years or more. If you tell the population of rural France that military and police are going to start shooting wild animals dead as a disease control measure there will be mass protests. But in South Sudan hey, at least you aren't proposing to shoot all the members of some minority ethnic group. | |
| ▲ | bookofjoe 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >In 2024, there were just 15 cases, and, according to the provisional tally for 2025, the number is down to just 10. |
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