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Aachen 6 hours ago

I'm an Anki user, on and off since 10 years or so, but was still confused. If I understood correctly, the entities here are:

- Anki, as set up by dae aka Damien, is like the brand name and desktop implementation with the spaced repetition algorithm

- AnkiWeb is what I thought this hub thing was. It's where you download decks

- AnkiHub is a third party (started by "AnKing", now 35 employees) who sells decks as a monthly subscription and has their content on the deep web (you need to create an account and agree to terms to even see a listing of what's there besides a few featured parts). This is who is getting ownership of the former two. Because they write that Anki will remain open source at its "core", I presume that means that things will, at best, stay stable rather than anything (like AnkiWeb the deck sharing platform) becoming open

- AnkiDroid is a separate open source project (an Android app). The corporation is hiring the main developer, but it's not yet clear to me whether they're just going to get paid to work more on AnkiDroid or if they're also getting other tasks

david_allison 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> - AnkiDroid is a separate open source project (an Android app). The corporation is hiring the main developer, but it's not yet clear to me whether they're just going to get paid to work more on AnkiDroid or if they're also getting other tasks

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To copy from my message on Discord:

> I’m moving to a full-time position working on Anki [incl. AnkiWeb & AnkiMobile]. I’m really excited about this, but there’s a mountain of pending, somewhat undefined work which will need to be done, and it’ll need my full-time attention for a while.

> I’ll still be contributing to AnkiDroid, but I won’t be able to commit as much time as I am doing currently (at least for the first few months while things stabilize). I’ll be here on evenings/weekends, and will be contributing in other ways (hopefully: unified Note Editor, JS addons etc… ), but I expect to slow down with code contributions to ensure I’m staying on on top of PR reviews & general force multiplier work. I’m definitely Org Admin’ing for GSoC over the summer [assuming Google gives us the greenlight], it’s historically been a VERY light role.

> In all honesty: I’m expecting things to be business as usual, I have more than enough capacity to keep up with the notification queue. Even if I completely dropped off the planet, we’re a great team and the improvements would keep on flowing. AnkiDroid’s bus factor has been >>> 1 for a LONG time now.

https://discord.gg/qjzcRTx => https://discord.com/channels/368267295601983490/701922522836...

GSoC: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/

digiown 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> AnkiWeb

Worth noting you don't need to use it. Anki comes with a syncserver implementation for a while now, and there are docker images too. It's worth it for the transfer speeds alone IMO.

Anki is under AGPL too, which has an anti-DRM clause, so many type of enshittification of anki or their addons (e.g. to prevent sharing of their decks) would be unenforceable too.

As such I see no obvious things that would be susceptible to enshittification here.

pityJuke 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Aha [0], that is neat.

[0]: https://docs.ankiweb.net/sync-server.html

bangonkeyboard 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I've tried several times before to install syncserver using those pip instructions, on multiple platforms, without success.

david_allison 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Try docker: https://github.com/ankitects/anki/tree/main/docs/syncserver#...

Aachen 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

(Same person as above but felt that this part had a separate purpose so I've moved it into its own comment)

The ecosystem is currently such that it seems hard to enshittify it. They say they have no intention of doing that and I believe it, but their vision of a healthy and good product might involve a fair price (for rich countries at least) whereas it was always free so far

Time will tell; it sounds like there's currently no plans either way, but it's also simply open enough that users can always just install the open source software and share decks with each other by whatever file transfer/sharing means. Everything that's already there won't simply go away. I'm going to keep using AnkiDroid and building the language deck I am working on

zozbot234 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The iOS app has never been free and that's the way most people use it these days. Desktop computing is a niche.

cosmic_cheese 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This may be true, but as someone who picked up Anki as a desktop app back around 2009 it feels a little crazy.

I also can’t imagine making cards on a phone, given how much switching between apps/windows is involved and how poor mobile platforms are at multitasking. It’s difficult to envision it being anything but maddening.

7jjjjjjj 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Desktop for creating cards, mobile for reviewing them.

angeladarby077 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Who is this

cosmic_cheese 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I prefer a laptop for reviewing because it’s still portable, but also more amenable to comfort for longer sessions and makes spot corrections easier.

rjh29 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In America perhaps. Android is more popular in other countries, most people I know use Anki for free. The desktop app and sync are useful for editing cards and managing a large collection. Both of those are free too, but for how long?

runarberg 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Worth mentioning too is the FSRS algorithm for scheduling cards is implemented in separate libraries which are released under MIT license.

eudamoniac 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This sounds concerning. Someone ought to back up the public AnkiWeb decks while we still can.