| ▲ | pixl97 8 hours ago |
| >Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions Microsoft cannot and will not ever get better at naming things. It is said the universe will split open and and eldritch beast will consume the stars the day Microsoft stops using inconsistent and overlapping names for different and conflicting products. Isn't that right .Net/dotnet |
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| ▲ | HPsquared 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| "Microsoft Re-Designs the iPod Packaging" (2006) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUXnJraKM3k |
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| ▲ | christophilus 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I’d forgotten all about this gem. I think it was made by some Microsoft employees, too, which makes it even funnier to me. | |
| ▲ | butlike 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That was deeply funny. I can almost smell the inside of CompUSA watching that. | |
| ▲ | imglorp 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Nineteen years ago. Nothing has changed. |
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| ▲ | anonymars 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Many will never know the joy of trying to search for it back in the days when punctuation was ignored (C# says hello too) Related: https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/windows-servers-iden... |
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| ▲ | estimator7292 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Try going on LinkedIn and searching for C# and .net jobs. Completely impossible. The search is bad to begin with, but it explicitly ignores anything that isn't a-9. | | |
| ▲ | anonymars 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ha, I stand corrected. Maybe Microsoft could reach out to the owners of LinkedIn to convince them to improve it. Oh, wait... | | |
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| ▲ | ksec 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Exactly. In the 50 years history of Microsoft, Office ( Year ) was perhaps the best they did. Nadella might have fixed a few things, but Microsoft still have massive room for improvement in many areas. |
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| ▲ | HPsquared 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You mean Microsoft® Office™ | |
| ▲ | adventured 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Nadella has the golden ship taking on water right now. He has entirely botched AI top to bottom. He has screwed that up to such a degree that it would be difficult to overstate. If he doesn't correct these mistakes extremely soon, he'll unravel much of the progress he made for Microsoft and they'll miss this generation of advancement (which will be the end of their $3 trillion market cap - as the market has recently perked up to). There is no tech giant that is more vulnerable than Microsoft is at this moment. Most document originations will begin out of or adjacent to of LLM sessions in the near future, as everything will blur in terms of collaborating with AI agents. Microsoft has no footing (or worse, their position is terrible courtesy of copilot) and is vulnerable to death by inflection point. Windows 11 is garbage and Google + Linux may finally be coming for their desktop (no different than what AMD has managed in unwinding the former Intel monopoly in PCs). Someone should be charging at them with a new take on Office, right now. This is where you slice them in half. Take down Office and take down Windows. They're so stupid at present that they've opened the gates to Office being destroyed, which has been their moat for 30 years. | | |
| ▲ | wing-_-nuts 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I am no big fan of MS, and especially not a fan of W11, but you're operating under the false assumption that their users are still their most important customers. MS's bottom line doesn't depend on how happy users are with W11, especially not power users like ourselves. W11 is just a means of selling subscriptions (office, ai, etc). The question isn't 'are users happy' it's 'will OEMs and business continue to push it?'. The answer to that is almost certainly yes. OEMs aren't going to be selling most pcs with ubuntu included any time soon. Businesses are not going to support libreoffice when MS office is the established standard. Maybe apple could make inroads here, but they don't seem willing to give up their profit margins on overpriced hardware, and I don't think I've ever seen them release anything 'office' related that was anywhere near feature parity with MSO, and especially not cross platform. | | |
| ▲ | shawnz 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | If their whole business is based around being an established standard and making users happy is not a relevant goal, then why do anything at all? They already are an established standard, so why would they bother taking any further actions whatsoever, making any changes or rolling out any new products? Clearly they are trying to achieve something, right? So what is it? | | |
| ▲ | bluGill 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It is about making specific high value users happy. If the rest of us are unhappy - we don't matter. They know for most people ubuntu or whatever isn't a realistic option and so they can take whatever money they can get from those people. Sure a few people like me will run *BSD or linux, but we are a footnote not worth their time. The only danger is every once in a while one of those little footnotes becomes large enough to be a problem and you lose the market of those who do matter as well. While there are many obvious examples of where that happened, there are also a lot of cases where it didn't. | |
| ▲ | 2snakes 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It used to be empowering everyone to achieve more. |
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| ▲ | canucker2016 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Excel is the lynchpin. But you need to have a story for handling the other Office apps functionality. That's table stakes these days. | |
| ▲ | rayiner 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Did they put the Teams people in charge of AI? |
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| ▲ | Paradigma11 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My peak experience so far was trying to search if there was an extension of dotnet interactive for visual studio or only for visual studio code. |
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| ▲ | DrTung 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I've heard the next version will be called "Visual Active NET Copilot". |
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| ▲ | i80and 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I remember when everything was "Sign in with .NET Passport" as a yoot and just being like "what the hell are you talking about" |
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| ▲ | pradeeproark 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Are we talking about .NET standard? |
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| ▲ | jslaby 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | No, we're talking about copilot core, not copilot framework |
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| ▲ | twisteriffic 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Cries in dapper dapr |
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| ▲ | nobodyandproud 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Somewhere and in some universe there was a Microsoft that did so, wreaking havoc across the
multiverse. |
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| ▲ | anal_reactor 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I'm "I don't know what Xbox is" years old. |
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| ▲ | neogodless 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's a music app. I thought that much was obvious. | | | |
| ▲ | anonymars 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Do you mean Xbox One? Or Xbox One X? Or Xbox Series X? Or maybe Xbox Series S? Seriously, how? | | |
| ▲ | lazzurs 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | About a year ago I had to buy a new Xbox. It took me time to figure out what model I had and what the new models are. It’s the least intuitive marketing on the market. | |
| ▲ | phkahler 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Don't forget Xbox 360, which precluded everything 365. | | |
| ▲ | josephg 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, it is a smaller number. I can't wait for the Xbox 370, just to one-up office. |
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| ▲ | anal_reactor 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | ROG Xbox Ally X. But I actually had in mind the Windows app named "Xbox". |
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| ▲ | gosub100 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's the successor to IXBox |
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