| ▲ | tylerchilds 6 hours ago |
| This is funny because everyone’s AI strategy should have been “What do we actually need to be productive?” Which is how Anthropic pulled ahead of Microsoft, that prioritized checks notes Taking screenshots of every windows user’s desktop every few seconds. For productivity. |
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| ▲ | halapro 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Fun fact: I used to automatically screenshot my desktop every few minutes eons ago. This would occasionally save me when I lost some work and could go back to check the screenshots. I only gave it up because it felt like a liability and, ahem, it was awkward to review screenshots and delete inopportune ones. |
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| ▲ | Sharlin 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Long time ago I had a script that would regularly screenshot my desktop… and display the latest screenshot on a page in my `public_html`, on the public web. Just because I thought it would be fun. |
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| ▲ | zamadatix an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Recall is great for bashing but relatively inconsequential to anything Microsoft has been doing in this space outside that. |
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| ▲ | rustyhancock an hour ago | parent [-] | | Although it seems in Europe we might all end up with recall style screenshots and scanning of what we're looking at. Part of me wonders if Microsoft knew it would appeal to governments. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/12/uk-to-encourage-... | | |
| ▲ | tylerchilds 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I mean. Ask any gamer if the original Xbox One announcement needing a Kinect and persistent internet connection was a feature request from them or a three letter org. As someone that was there, we saved the Xbox brand by bullying Microsoft out of normalizing spying on kids and their whole families. |
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| ▲ | paxys 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Anthropic has a model. Microsoft doesn't. |
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| ▲ | satvikpendem 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Microsoft can use OpenAI models but it's not the model that's the problem, it's the application of them. Anthropic simply knows how to execute better. | | |
| ▲ | bhadass 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | they should just acquire one of the many agent code harnesses. Something like opencode works just as well as claude-code and has only been around half of the time. | |
| ▲ | formerly_proven 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | As evidenced by Anthropic models not performing well in github presents copilot. | | |
| ▲ | speedgoose 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I read that a few times but from my personal observations, Claude Opus 4.5 is not significantly different in GitHub Copilot. The maximum context size is smaller for sure, but I don’t think the model remembers that well when the context is huge. |
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| ▲ | pixl97 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Microsoft has a model nearly as old as the company. Attempt to build a product... Fail. Buy someone else's product/steal someone else's product... Succeed. | | |
| ▲ | icedchai 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We love to hate on Microsoft here, but the fact is they are one of the most diversified tech companies out there. I would say they are probably the most diversified, actually. Operating systems, dev tools, business applications, cloud, consumer apps, SaaS, gaming, hardware. They are everywhere in the stack. | |
| ▲ | Octoth0rpe 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's a "business" model, not a language model, which I believe is what the poster is referring to. In any case though, MS does have a number of models, most notably Phi. I don't think anyone is using them for significant work though. | | |
| ▲ | pixl97 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's a word play, if their LLM model sucks too much they'll get someone else's. I mean they fought the browser war for years, then just used Chrome. | | |
| ▲ | canucker2016 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Well, they fought hard until IE6. Then they took their eyes off the ball - whether it was protecting the Windows fort (why create an app that has all the functionality of an OS that you give away for free - mostly on Windows, some Mac versions, but no Linux support) when people are paying for Windows OR they just diverted the IE devs to some other "hot" product, browser progress stagnated, even with XMLHttpRequest. | |
| ▲ | torginus 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Which is kind of a bummer - it'd have helped the standards based web to have an actual powerful entity maintain a distinct implementation. Firefox is on life-support and is basically taking code from Blink wholesale, and Webkit isn't really interested in making a browser thats particularly compliant to web standards. MS's calculus was obvious - why spend insane amounts of engineering effort to make a browser engine that nobody uses - which is too bad, because if I remember correctly they were not too far behind Chrome in either perf or compatibility for a while. | | |
| ▲ | Nevermark 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | It would have helped the standards based web, if the standards based web wasn't a fermenting spaghetti monster. | | |
| ▲ | torginus 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | From what I've heard a W3C standards meeting is basically a Zoom call between Blink and Webkit engineers. |
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| ▲ | jug an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They do have some in-house LLM's (Phi) but they seem to either have issues with, or not thinking it's worth it, to develop large flagship ones. | |
| ▲ | tylerchilds 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | One has existed since the 80s, when was the other founded? | | |
| ▲ | Gud 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | What does it matter?
And Microsoft was founded in the 70s.. | | |
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| ▲ | bee_rider 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | A large language model, or a business model? |
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| ▲ | bobsmooth 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Recall actually sounds like it could be useful but there's a snowball's chance in hell that I would trust Microsoft to not spy on me. |
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| ▲ | jacquesm 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | On the contrary, you could trust it 100% to spy on you. That's the whole reason that functionality exists. | | |
| ▲ | Nevermark 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Always trust people. Trust people to be themselves. For some reason, people have great cognitive difficulty with defensive trust. Charlie Brown, Sally. |
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| ▲ | dangus 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don’t plan on using the feature and I don’t plan on using Windows much longer in the first place, but I find that going beyond the ragebait headlines and looking at the actual offering and its privacy policy and security documentation makes it look a lot more reasonable. Microsoft is very explicit in detailing how the data stays on device and goes to great lengths to detail exactly how it works to keep data private, as well as having a lot of sensible exceptions (e.g., disabled for incognito web browsing sessions) and a high degree of control (users can disable it per app). On top of all this it’s 100% optional and all of Microsoft’s AI features have global on/off switches. | | |
| ▲ | tylerchilds 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Here are the settlements from Apple and Google regarding “how phones totally aren’t listening to you and selling the data to advertisers” https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-voice-assistant-lawsuit-... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lopez-voice-assistant-payout-se... | |
| ▲ | Dusseldorf 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Until those switches come in the crosshairs of someone's KPIs, and then magically they get flipped in whatever direction makes the engagement line go up. Unfortunately we live in a world where all of these companies have done this exact thing, over and over again. These headlines aren't ragebait, they're prescient. | | |
| ▲ | dangus 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, now you’re just doing the same exact thing I described. You’re basically making up hypothetical things that could happen in the future. I’ll agree with you the moment Microsoft does that. But they haven’t done it. And again, I’m not their champion, I’m actively migrating away from Microsoft products. I just don’t think this type of philosophy is helpful. It’s basically cynicism for cynicism’s sake. |
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| ▲ | luddit3 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You were robbed last night. No way Jelly Roll should have won. |
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| ▲ | tylerchilds 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I love you for this reference lol I hate how I’ve had a web site with my name on it since 2008 and when you google my name verbatim it says “did you mean Tyler Childers” Such shade from the algorithm, I get it, I get it, software is lamer than music. |
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