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MattGaiser 5 hours ago

There seems to be abundant evidence that exercise is often the best solution for any number of things.

The problem is that doing it sucks.

oatmeal1 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Exercise doesn't suck, land use policies generally just don't prioritize good places for the fun kinds of exercise.

JumpCrisscross 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Who does land use right?

defrost 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I can criticise Australian urban planning for days ... but many visitors to Australia do effuse about how much outdoor recreational space we have and plan for.

Eg: Perth's 7km park: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1362227242068763 and https://www.tiktok.com/@9newsperth/video/7553237387548134712

AU Aintree North Recreation Reserve : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5vYNG2eL9g

Skate parks, woops, river and coastal setbacks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfLa32K74Zw

JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yet Australia’s obesity rate is around or worse than that of most of the Western states, Minnesota, Missouri and Illinois [1][2].

I don’t think land-use policies are the main cause.

[1] https://data.worldobesity.org/rankings/

[2] https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data-and-statistics/adult-obesit...

defrost 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

First link has Australia, the country, at 32% obesity Vs. USofA at %41.6.

My only observations, having travelled in both, is that Australia like eveywhere has gotten more urban in past 20 years and I've got a feeling the percentage of Australians significantly past the technical bar of "obese" is very low compared to rates in the US of "well past" "just merely obese".

I'm not sure anyone's broken down the obesity quintile demographics.

ytoawwhra92 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why are you excluding the heaviest 2/3rds of the US population from your comparison?

its_ubuntu 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My local dragstrip.

conception 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Doing boring rote movements sucks. There are lots of fun ways to exercise.

shoobiedoo 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Kettlebells are the perfect middle ground for me. Dynamic movements, easy to incorporate strength gains, very little floor space required and one kettlebell is enough to get started. After a few years of kettlebells I feel like my lower back is made of titanium.

Downside is there is a fairly steep learning curve to use them without injury.

BLKNSLVR 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> The problem is that doing it sucks

I really dislike running for running's sake. But I love inline skating. Did a 20km route yesterday, did 43km a fortnight ago (which was admittedly too far for where my stamina is at). One of the things about skating (and this would also be true for cycling) is the different perspective it provides if you normally get around your local area in a car. You get to see the same places from radically different angles, depending on what paths are suitable to the mode of transport. Just going slower on or next to the road you get to see more detail, but footpaths and other tracks are often (possibly not the right terminology, but) 'off the beaten track'. In inner suburban Melbourne (whilst holidaying there) I chanced upon a relatively unpopulated footpath alongside a river / drain that took me 15km into the city, and it was (in parts) both peaceful and beautiful, despite really not being that far away from main roads / highways / freeways.

A lot of people like cycling, can be done individually or in any sized group.

Tennis is mostly individual (although an opponent is required), but I play in a team and enjoy the combination of singles, doubles, and an overall team result.

Football, soccer, rugby can be physically brutal, but are team sports that have a (forced) social aspect if that's an unmet need. Volleyball is a bit less intense. Table tennis. Lots of options for different sports that cater to different levels of physical stress.

Find a local park that has a basketball ring and just shoot hoops with yourself regularly. It at least gets you out of a chair and moving both arms and legs.

If you don't (think you) like any of those things, then you gotta do the hard yards to find that one rare thing you do like. It could just be something that you can find an appropriate level of progression that gives you 'that feeling'. I think that's what got me into skating late in life - I was terrible at it as a kid, but kinda forced into giving it another go as an adult, and within a couple of hours I was already better at it than in my childhood. It was a sense of accomplishment achieved in a relatively short term (= addicted? maybe).

Find your healthy addiction.

lostlogin 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Find a better way of exercising.

There is something out there that suits, surely. Sometimes it’s just a step removed.

cj 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And importantly: stick with it for a few weeks before deciding whether you enjoy it. Virtually no one falls in love with the gym (or whatever fitness activity) the first time they walked in. Getting started isn't always fun. But over time it can become very rewarding.

ytoawwhra92 an hour ago | parent [-]

> stick with it for a few weeks before deciding whether you enjoy it

I think this can be bad advice for people who may be predisposed to dislike exercise due to past experience or just straight up unfamiliarity.

More constructive is to think about what you don't enjoy about the activity and whether those are intrinsic qualities or can be changed. If they can be changed, change them.

Similarly, it's a good idea to think about things you know you enjoy that can be coupled with exercise. Add those things to your exercise environment to build up positive associations over time.

As a simple example: if you feel self-conscious about your body when you go to the gym you shouldn't try to just suffer through that feeling. Just workout somewhere where you don't feel self-conscious.

SecretDreams 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Play soccer twice a week. It's high intensity cardio, normally 60-90 mins tops. Sometimes beers after. And actually fun. Even in a coed league or an adult (min age) league. It's a great time. Bonus points - you'll possibly look more athletic if you keep at it long enough and don't over indulge in those beers!