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norir 2 hours ago

> I'm a programmer, and I use automatic programming. The code I generate in this way is mine. My code, my output, my production. I, and you, can be proud.

I disagree. The code you wrote is a collaboration with the model you used. To frame it this way, you are taking credit for the work the model did on your behalf. There is a difference between I wrote this code entirely by myself and I wrote the code with a partner. For me, it is analogous to the author of the score of an opera taking credit for the libretto because they gave the libretto author the rough narrative arc. If you didn't do it yourself, it isn't yours.

I generally prefer integrated works or at least ones that clearly acknowledge the collaboration and give proper credit.

catdog 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Also it's not only the work of "the model" it's the work of human beings the model is trained on, often illegally.

sneak 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Copyright infringement is a tort. “Illegal” is almost always used to refer to breaking of criminal law.

This seems like intentionally conflating them to imply that appropriating code for model training is a criminal offense, when, even in the most anti-AI, pro-IP view, it is plainly not.

heavyset_go 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual...

keyle an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The line gets blurrier the more auto-complete you use.

Agentic programming is at the end of the day a higher level auto complete, with extremely fuzzy matching on English.

But when you write a block and you let copilot complete 3, 4, 5 statements. Are you really writing the code?

sneak 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Prompting the AI is indeed “do[ing] it yourself”. There’s nobody else here, and this code is original and never existed before, and would not exist here and now if I hadn’t prompted this machine.

Thanemate an hour ago | parent [-]

Sure. But the sentence "I am a programmer" doesn't fit with prompting, just as much as me prompting for a drawing that resembles something doesn't make me a painter.

helloplanets 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

So, what's your take on Andy Warhol, or sampling in music?

FeteCommuniste 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Exactly. He's acting as something closer to a technical manager (who can dip into the code if need be but mostly doesn't) than a programmer.

Craighead 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How many JavaScript libraries does the average fortune 1000 developer invoke when programming?