| ▲ | ed 12 hours ago |
| A bit OT but why is moltbot so much more popular than the many personal agents that have been around for a while? |
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| ▲ | manmal 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| - Peter has spent the last year building up a large assortment of CLIs to integrate with. He‘s also a VERY good iOS and macOS engineer so he single handedly gave clawd capabilities like controlling macOS and writing iMessages. - Leaning heavily on the SOUL.md makes the agents way funnier to interact with. Early clawdbot had me laugh to tears a couple times, with its self-deprecating humor and threatening to play Nickelback on Peter‘s sound system. - Molt is using pi under the hood, which is superior to using CC SDK - Peter’s ability to multitask surpasses anything I‘ve ever seen (I know him personally), and he’s also super well connected. Check out pi BTW, it’s my daily driver and is now capable to write its own extensions. I wrote a git branch stack visualizer _for_ pi, _in_ pi in like 5 minutes. It’s uncanny. |
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| ▲ | biddit 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes! pi is the best-architected harness available. You can do anything with it. The creator, Mario, is a voice of reason in the codegen field too. https://shittycodingagent.ai/ https://mariozechner.at/posts/2025-11-30-pi-coding-agent/ | |
| ▲ | piffey 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've been really curious about pi and have been following it but haven't seen a reason to switch yet outside anecdotes. What makes it a better daily driver out of the box compared to Claude or Codex? What did you end up needing to add to get your workflow to be "now capable to write its own extensions"? Just trying to see what the benefit would be if I hop into a new tool. | | |
| ▲ | manmal 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Why don’t you try it, it’s 2 minutes to setup (or tell Claude to do it), and it uses your CC Max sub if you want. Some advantages: - Faster because it does no extra Haiku inference for every prompt (Anthropic does this for safety it seems) - Extensions & skills can be hot reloaded. Pi is aware of its own docs so you just tell it „build an extension that does this and that“. Things like sub agents or chains of sub agents are easily doable. You could probably make a Ralph workflow extension in a few minutes if you think that’s a good idea. - Tree based history rewind (no code rewind but you could make an extension for that easily) - Readable session format (jsonl) - you can actually DO things with your session files like analysis or submit it along with a PR. People have workflows around this already. Armin Ronacher liked asking pi about other user’s sessions to judge quality. - No flicker because Mario knows his TUI stuff. He sometimes tells the CC engs on X how they could fix their flicker but they don’t seem to listen. The TUI is published separately as well (pi-tui) and I‘ve been implementing a tailing log reader based on it - works well. | | |
| ▲ | VadimPR 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Using your CC Max account for this seems like a good way to get your account banned, as it's against the ToS and Anthropic has started enforcing this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only legal way to use pi is to use an API, and that's enormously expensive. |
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| ▲ | kurtis_reed 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Who's Peter? | | | |
| ▲ | saberience 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s vibe coded slop that could be made by anyone with Claude Code and a spare weekend. It didn’t require any skill, it’s all written by Claude. I’m not sure why you’re trying to hype up this guy, if he didn’t have Claude he couldn’t have made this, just like non engineers all over the world are coding all a variety of shit right now. | | |
| ▲ | mrshu 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It was not built by Claude -- Peter no longer uses it for coding -- he builds exclusively with Codex now: https://steipete.me/posts/2025/shipping-at-inference-speed | | | |
| ▲ | biddit 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I’ve been following Peter and his projects 7-8 months now and you fundamentally mischaracterize him. Peter was a successful developer prior to this and an incredibly nice guy to boot, so I feel the need to defend him from anonymous hate like this. What is particularly impressive about Peter is his throughput of publishing *usable utility software*. Over the last year he’s released a couple dozen projects, many of which have seen moderate adoption. I don’t use the bot, but I do use several of his tools and have also contributed to them. There is a place in this world for both serious, well-crafted software as well as lower-stakes slop. You don’t have to love the slop, but you would do well to understand that there are people optimizing these pipelines and they will continue to get better. |
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| ▲ | bhadass 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| hard to do "credit assignment", i think network effects go brrrrrr. karpathy tweeted about it, david sacks picked it up, macstories wrote it up. suddenly ppl were posting screenshots of their macmini setups on x and ppl got major FOMO watching their feeds. also peter steinberger tweets a lot and is prolific otherwise in terms posting about agentic coding (since he does it a lot) its basically claude with hands, and self-hosting/open source are both a combo a lot of techies like. it also has a ton of integrations. will it be important in 6 months? i dunno. i tried it briefly, but it burns tokens like a mofo so I turned it off. im also worried about security implications. |
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| ▲ | ed 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's totally possible Peter was the right person to build this project – he's certainly connected enough. My best guess is that it feels more like a Companion than a personal agent. This seems supported by the fact I've seen people refer to their agents by first name, in contexts where it's kind of weird to do. But now that the flywheel is spinning, it can clearly do a lot more than just chat over Discord. |
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| ▲ | olivia-banks 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The only context I've heard about it has been when the Mac Mini clusters associated with it were brought up. Perhaps it's the imagery of that. |
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| ▲ | elemdos 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah makes sense. Something about giving an agent its own physical computer and being able to text it instructions like a personal assistant just clicks more than “run an agent in a sandbox”. | |
| ▲ | xnx 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes. People are really hung up on personifying or embodying agents: Rabbit M1, etc. The hype is incandescent right now but Clawdbot/Moltbot will be largely forgotten in 2 months. |
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| ▲ | thehamkercat 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | sergiotapia 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| fake crypto based hype. Cui bono. |
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| ▲ | Veen 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's not. The guy behind Moltbot dislikes crypto bros as much as you seem to. He's repeatedly publicly refused to take fees for the coin some unconnected scumbags made to ride the hype wave, and now they're attacking him for that and because he had to change the name. The Discord and Peter's X are swamped by crypto scumbags insulting him and begging him to give his blessing to the coin. Perhaps you should do a bit of research before mouthing off. | | |
| ▲ | sergiotapia 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm not saying the author of the software is to blame. This has nothing to do with him! I'm saying why it became so popular. | | |
| ▲ | bhadass 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | i'd say the crypto angle is only one factor. as is usual in the real world, effects are multifactorial. clawdbot also rode the wave of claude-code being popular (perhaps due to underlying models getting better making agents more useful). a lot of "personal agents" were made in 2024 and early 2025 which seem to be before the underlying models/ecosystems were as mature. no doubt we're still very early in this wave. i'm sure google and apple will release their offerings. they are the 800lb gorillas in all this. |
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