| ▲ | xvector 2 hours ago |
| One person dies to ICE, the whole country is in outrage; 37k people massacred in cold blood - barely a peep. I hate how irrational our species is and how unempathetic we are to situations not immediately in front of us. And Trump should not have promised assistance. How many more people are dead because they were encouraged by said promise? Some of these deaths can surely be attributed to him. |
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| ▲ | dotnet00 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Funny you whine about irrationality while ignoring the very clear rational reason why Americans are outraged over government agents executing a random civilian in their own supposedly free country over what's happening in another country that is known for being violently oppressive. |
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| ▲ | xvector 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We should be angry about both situations but most people truly don't give a fuck about the latter. It is not just the Iran situation though. We make decisions all the time that result in immense amount of unnecessary suffering because of a total lack of rationality. Our food consumption choices alone have created the objectively largest and most horrific engine of suffering in the history of this planet, all for the pleasure of our taste buds. The average person is directly responsible for this. It is the irrationality and lack of empathy of the average person that bothers me. Unless you show them a video of protestors being massacred in Iran, or take them to a factory farm, they don't care. And even then, they often don't care. Why? Suffering is roughly sortable and it is certainly within the power of most people to drive down the greatest sources of suffering, and pressure their government to do so when it is not directly within their power. But people are irrational. | |
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| ▲ | Spooky23 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "Help is on the way" from the US is often not a great propositon. Doubly so today. https://reason.com/2026/01/23/the-trump-administration-plans... The US shipped the carrier battle group in the region out to support the Venezuela operations, and is deporting asylum seekers back to their deaths this week. Nobody in the US has any idea what is happening in Iran. Judging by the weird, not very HN like threads on this post, sounds like we are going to. |
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| ▲ | Der_Einzige 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| 1 person gets an abortion, the whole country is in outrage. Millions of young men get mutilated at birth - barely a peep. |
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| ▲ | zb3 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The fact that he said that and then DID NOT topple the government in Iran is insane.. completely irresponsible, or rather responsible.. for those deaths. The irony is that now those who are still alive in Iran might remember this and update their notion of US trustworthiness accordingly. |
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| ▲ | parineum 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Do you think that the people encouraging ice protests share some culpability in the deaths of the other protesters? |
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| ▲ | dismalaf 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The outrage over the ICE death is from leftists already opposed to ICE. Those same leftists support the Palestinian cause. Iran funds Hamas and Hezbollah directly. Iranian/Russian money has also been traced to some college protests and obviously supports leftist causes. They're not going to be outraged over the people they support killing protestors who want to topple the thing they support. Also, just to be fair, there's also some right-wing obvious Russian agents weirdly not condemning the Islamic Republic... |
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| ▲ | EngineerUSA 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Such a ridiculous take. Get off your hate wagon. Also I argue no "leftists" support opposing ICE or Palestine out of "leftism". Only hateful bigots would support the execution of our people on our streets, or denying Palestinians their rights to exist and to freedom, free from a zionist ideology that has no respect for property or for life. Maybe if our "right wingers" and "Zionist" friends put humanity first and not politics or racist judaism first, they would not sound as hateful as you do now bud. Your comment is vile, and I can only imagine the hate you have in your bones. Although I will exclude right wingers here, since they are as of late huge supporters of the palestinian cause. | | |
| ▲ | dismalaf 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | ??? There's an obvious trail of money from Russia and Iran that influences current world events. Which is why there's no outrage over Iran murdering tens of thousands of protestors. I'm on the side of the Iranian protestors, not the murderous Islamic regime and terrorists, nor their murderous Russian allies. What's vile is not being opposed to the murder of 36000 people. | | |
| ▲ | EngineerUSA 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I am very much against Iran bud. However, I am very much against Israel too, and your comment merged those protesting the murder of Good and more recently Mr Preti and left a very bad taste. Do you support in equal fervor the trail of money from rich religious donors in the US towards starving children in Ghaza for the Zionist project? or are you protesting the murders committed by the IDF against helpless children? The fact you are bringing religion into your argument is vile too. Iran's regime is built on oppression, but this is very much not a religious struggle. It just tells me you are very much ignorant on the subject. Dictatorships (Iran, Russia) are not religious by nature. They use culture or religion to drive their oppressive agenda, but you are falling for tricks that leads me to believe you support the protests in Iran not out of wishful helpfulness, but out of bigotry. But maybe you are equally supportive of other struggles for freedom like the Palestinian struggle. | | |
| ▲ | dismalaf 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Religion? Iran's legal name is "the Islamic Republic of Iran" and it is widely called the Islamic Republic. I just used this name to differentiate from the Iranian people or Iran as a country filled with people who don't necessarily support the regime. But you keep bringing up Zionists which gives a clue as to your persuasions, especially since they have no role in any of the events discussed here unless you believe the "Jews run the world" conspiracy theories. Anyhow, the horseshoe is real and the Russian/Iranian money trail is real... Here's some examples: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/24/uk-protest-gro... https://time.com/7005190/iran-gaza-protests-nuanced-reality/ https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/iranian-government-actors-se... https://www.timesofisrael.com/nancy-pelosi-calls-for-fbi-pro... | | |
| ▲ | EngineerUSA 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | That answers me. Bigotry is strong with this one. I am not wasting my time or engaging with hate. you must be a foreigner since we all call them Iran. You are using the term the Iranian leadership likes, maybe you are an Iranian or Israeli agent after all! Zionism was used because your care for protests does not apply equally it seems to innocent protestors. You are siding with evil in some instances, and against it in others. It tells me where your heart is, and it is not in the right place. There is no nuance to starving children like Israel did. I cannot engage with you any more given we disagree on facts. But maybe the purchase of tiktok can finally help your propaganda. You lost me. I am very much once again against Iran and Russia (you are not listening) but I believe there is hypocrisy at play here |
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