1970-01-01 7 hours ago

I was out skating today. Everyone was having a fun time until a diesel truck simply drove down the nearby road. It stunk up and polluted the frozen lake air for a solid few minutes. I hate diesel trucks with a passion and if I live long enough to see it happen, I will celebrate the day they become defunct. Tesla's EV trucks need to deal the same hard kick to diesel trucks that they did to cars.

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xbmcuser 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ev trucks have already reached 50%+ sales in China this year so diesel truck will be gone soon but unlikely to be Tesla trucks though.

	▲	kalleboo 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Here in Japan as well delivery companies are all moving to EVs, which is great in the neighborhoods where they idle their trucks in the summer when hopping out to make a delivery. Yamato using Mitsubishi Fuso eCanter trucks[0] and Japan Post adopting Mitsubishi Minicab EVs[1] and Honda EV bikes. [0] https://www.yamato-hd.co.jp/news/2023/newsrelease_20230912_1... [1] https://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/jp/newsroom/newsrelease/20...
	▲	Gigachad 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I see the BYD utes are increasingly common in Australia now. Electric seems like a pretty clear winner now.
	▲	dangus 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Just when I was thinking about Tesla’s main failure being their pickup truck you remind me how they completely missed the obvious delivery van market for which EVs are ideal. And the semi is such vaporware that I forgot it was even a thing.

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senectus1 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

yeah, its an interesting analogy with smokers and the smell and pollution they spread. they dont seem to notice it themselves, but the non smokers around them and up to 100 meters away all notice them.

	▲	MBCook 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I’m not sure that’s really the case here. There’s simply no way you can’t notice bad pollution from vehicles. Standing near the average car isn’t that bad at all. EVs are way better, but it’s not that bad. But stand near a car that has some sort of exhaust problem or isn’t burning fuel correctly and it’s bad. Just horrible to breathe. I’ve found cabin air filters either activated carbon help immensely. I started buying them on someone’s recommendation but I had no idea how much they affected things. I’ve driven on brand new asphalt and not noticed the smell. I’ve been behind horrible cars and I don’t notice a thing, unless I put my window down and then it suddenly hits me. All of a sudden lately I’m smelling the terrible cars again. Time to change the filter.

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rootusrootus 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Tesla's EV trucks need to deal the same hard kick to diesel trucks that they did to cars

That won't happen until they design a normal truck. The Lightning sold more than the CT and it still ended up getting canceled(ish). It isn't going to be Tesla that does it, it will probably be someone else, and the driving factor is battery capacity. We've got a ways to go yet. It would help to have 400+ kWh batteries and megawatt chargers.

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loeg 6 hours ago | parent [-]

The post-cancellation EREV Lightning is 99% an EV, for the purposes of air pollution. Agree with everything else.

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rootusrootus 6 hours ago | parent [-]

That's why I said (ish). I agree, it's predominantly an EV. I hope they backpedal on the decision a bit and offer both an EREV and a regular EV at the same time. I'm quite happy with my Lightning and will buy another, but I'm not super interested in the EREV as it just adds expense, complexity, and maintenance requirements without offering me much additional functionality for my use case.

	▲	digiown 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I thought the whole point of an EREV is to reduce expense by having less battery in the vehicle.
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