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| ▲ | lxgr 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > whataspp discloses name, picture, status Only to who you choose to make it available to. And if you choose “everybody”, I don’t see how you can reasonably expect this to mean “everybody not using third-party software”? |
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| ▲ | mlrtime 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Because I don't chose everybody? I don't want everyone to see my information, why would I? | |
| ▲ | dmitrygr 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Because until today that IS what it meant! Are you claiming that "pray i do not change the deal further" is a sane approach? | | |
| ▲ | lxgr 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I just don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation of a telecommunications tool, so yeah, I think it’s a fair change well within the norms and expectations of an instant messenger. You should get to control how/ to whom your data is distributed, but also requiring these recipients to only use software and services of your choosing seems excessive. Platform lock-in at this point seems like the much greater harm. I could see the case for a small indicator in the contact details that they’re using a third-party client, but anything more (green bubbles?) would be counterproductive. | | |
| ▲ | mlrtime 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's not requiring, thats the point of BirdyChat, right? You just have to opt-in to use it. | |
| ▲ | dmitrygr 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | i did not ask for green bubbles, nor did whatsapp implement that. they let me opt-in to communicate with questionable clients and i am here for it. |
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| ▲ | direwolf20 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The recipient is already using third-party code. I am using a Samsung OS, which is not from Meta, to see your messages. Do you object to this? I also have the YouTube PiP overlay layer in front of your messages. |
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| ▲ | direwolf20 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Several people have scraped every possible phone number from WhatsApp so they know your name, picture, and status if they want it. |
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| ▲ | mlrtime 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | So, that doesn't mean we give it away freely because someone was malicious. That makes no sense. | | |
| ▲ | direwolf20 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's already given away freely. Anyone who has WhatsApp can add you as a contact and see this information. If you are bored and have a computer, you can add every possible phone number as a contact. Not many people do that, but some did. |
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| ▲ | xmcp123 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Old telephones had caller ID. They would send your name and company. You did have to initiate the call, but you still didn’t have any kind of agreement about it. |
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| ▲ | mlrtime 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, and you used to have to pay for it! Not only was it opt-in, there was a charge. |
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