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| ▲ | drnick1 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It's because the real solution here is to move away from this proprietary malware to protocols that are open, so that anyone can write or fork a client. (For instance, see Molly for a fully Ungoogled Signal.) It's difficult when it comes to messengers, but reasonably easy when it comes to Google and Android, for which good alternatives exist (e.g., DuckDuck on GrapheneOS.) |
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| ▲ | ronsor 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Or worse - you have a nice trademark for your business or product, and google managed to turn 91% of "URL bars" through "web standards" and unilateral control / anti-competitive practices, turn these into "Google search". You type in Anthropic and instead of seeing their homepage, you see ads for ChatGPT. 50% of Google's revenue is trademark taxation. This is preposterous. You'd see ads for Gemini, not ChatGPT. |
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| ▲ | direwolf20 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | That depends which group is offering more money today. Gemini is integrated into the search and comes before any results so it might not need any ads. |
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| ▲ | jstummbillig 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > This is fucking malicious compliance. Meta knows what they're doing. And so do the courts. Give them some time to cook. How goes the popular American saying: We can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way. |
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| ▲ | echelon 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | How long? Lina Khan didn't move fast enough, then she was shown the door. Maybe the EU will persist where the US FTC/DOJ could not? | |
| ▲ | Nextgrid 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Give them some time to cook How long? I'm still waiting for the GDPR to actually be enforced meaningfully. | | |
| ▲ | gf000 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You can get some really hefty fines for not playing by the rules. It's taken extremely seriously in basically every aspect of life in Europe. It's not enforced hard enough against US company empires like meta and the like unfortunately, but it absolutely works. | | |
| ▲ | Nextgrid 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Can != will. > It's taken extremely seriously in basically every aspect of life in Europe Yeah, like every single cookie banner out there not actually being compliant. A regulation can't be considered to be meaningfully enforced when every single storefront openly breaches it in total impunity for years. | |
| ▲ | reedciccio 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah... Ask Schrems about the hefty fines and all that pretty things bright to Europeans by the GDPR. Come on! The GDPR is at best a pretty face to a rotten nothing-burger. | | |
| ▲ | pastage 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not full filling your wishes can still mean useful. Be very specific when you critize the only set of laws that has done anything for users. |
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| ▲ | jstummbillig 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | How is it not enforced "meaningfully"? (I don't know what is meaningful to you) | | |
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| ▲ | _3u10 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Nah it’s privacy. Gotta get consent from users. Cookies, GDPR, and all. Meta has learned from their fines, and isn’t opting users automatically into features. |
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| ▲ | irishcoffee 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > This is fucking malicious compliance. Meta knows what they're doing. Wait, you mean passing feel-good legislation has knock-on effects? Who would have thought? |
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| ▲ | TeMPOraL 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's not a case of "feel-good legislation", but yeah, this reaction was to be expected. Meta and most other SaaS companies are user-hostile on purpose, not by accident, so it's predictable they'll try to fight it. | | |
| ▲ | irishcoffee an hour ago | parent [-] | | That's fair. By feel-good I meant, passing something without trying to see how this would be the reaction. Just put a tiny bit more thought into the edge cases for exploitation. Don't rush it for the moral victory, have cake and eat it too. |
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| ▲ | schubidubiduba 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That is not the case here. The legislation has been drafted with all of this in mind, and will force Meta to continually improve until the feature is like it should be. Without Trump making a huge fuss everytime US companies have to do something that can hurt their monopolies, we'd probably already be there |
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