I have a car with smart cruise, but there's plenty of room for improvement. It isn't very smart at determining when it can avoid braking, such as when a car well ahead has slowed for a right turn. It also brakes too aggressively when someone cuts in front of me on the highway, in situations where just lifting off the gas would be better.

It also times out very quickly when traffic comes to a complete standstill, requiring manual intervention to get going again, and it doesn't give any indication to the driver when that occurs.

If these things bothered me much more than they do, I'd be interested in comma.ai as a possible solution. As it stands, the OEM radar cruise control is "Eh, good enough, I guess."

Nobody is making you do this, they're not even charging you for it. Comparing to a company worth billions is disingenious.

I noticed this issue and someone else mentioned it to them too. I think it's cheeky because it's been like that for a while

Yeah but... yeah.

How is the experience on the Corolla. How much can it do by itself?

I like Comma. I like geohot (I wouldn't want to work for him I imagine it is intense) but I like the contrary attitude and also the product as seen as demoed on youtube.

  - InsureCo, how may I help you?
  - Hey, I want to ask about installing a self driving module in my car...
  - Sure, you mean Tesla upgrade?
  - No, another one.
  - Another one?
  - Yeah, you remember that kid that hacked Playstation?

At the moment in every jurisdiction I’m aware of the driver is always considered as “in charge” of the vehicle no matter what assistance functions are being used. It’s the driver’s responsibility to avoid collisions in all cases.

If you have a collision and your vehicle is judged at fault by whatever authority does it in your area the you are liable.

I mean, just like with a Tesla, the driver is responsible for the actions taken by the car, which means you do need to be paying attention, hands on the wheel, ready to take over at all times.

We don't yet have the legal framework to say 'Sue company x, it wasn't my fault!' You get sued, then you have a very uphill battle to turn around and try to sue the company that provided the 'self driving' functionality because companies put all sorts of 'I totally accept liability for using this' in the T&C of their products.

I guess it would be like open source cruise control. In that they could assert some probability of incorrect installation that caused the accident.

Generic Openpilot out of the box is just super nice cruise control right now. So it can do longitudinal and latitudinal control. So it lane keeps, stays behind the car in front of you, etc.

If you use Sunnypilot or one of the other friendly forks, you can do more, but it's not (currently) to the state of Tesla's FSD.

Personally, I recommend buying it if you do a lot of road trips. It's amazing for that. In/around town it's only useful if you have a lot of stop and go traffic, like if you live in LA or other large car-centric city with a big commute.

FAQs including - What is openpilot? - How does openpilot work?

at https://comma.ai/support#what-is-openpilot

I have one of these and I really enjoy it.

No it’s not FSD. There is no navigation at all, you’re correct that it’s “just lane assist”. But the lane assist is next level.

I take a few 1,000 mile plus road trips every year and the comma pays for itself every time. Using the stock lane assist, I’m constantly correcting it. The stock assist tries to take an exit, doesn’t handle curves well at all, and any construction or unusual road conditions it won’t work at all.

With the Comma, on the highway it’s basically FSD. On my last 1000 mile trip I never had to disengage, only to pass and make turns.

The biggest advantage is Comma allows you to be completely hands off the wheel. Where lane assist forces you to hold the wheel at all times.

Damn, well, that's me and Terence Tao out of luck.

I assumed he was a Musk disciple after he took a sabbatical to help with the twitter transition

He has commended Tesla Autopilot many times and has stated that their technology is much more similar to Tesla's rather than Waymo's.

I know george hotz was the CEO. Who is it now?

geohotz, the infamous person who cracked the PS3 at the time. Been following him since that time and this project since he started it. His blogs have always teetered on the edge of unprofessional while remaining incredibly knowledgeable and insightful. Truly enjoy all his work.