Remix.run Logo
Meet the Alaska Student Arrested for Eating an AI Art Exhibit(thenation.com)
79 points by petethomas 4 hours ago | 42 comments
MisterTea 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Dwyer claims Granger’s act was akin to slashing someone’s tires to protest the oil industry.

Granger's protest was properly executed as you slash the tires of the oil trucks and oil execs - you strike the people peddling what you are protesting. So of course Dwyer is trying to downplay the significance.

ronsor an hour ago | parent [-]

Wouldn't it make more sense to strike OpenAI, or Midjourney, or whatever else then?

Aside from that, I don't think this "protest" will result in anything more than maybe some increased security (and maybe more arrests if he inspires others to do similar).

striking 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Got you to talk about it, though, didn't it?

> CW: Do you consider what you did protest, performance art, both, or something else?

> GG: Both. It’s a protest against the school’s AI policy specifically and it’s performance art because I needed something that would elicit a reaction. So this could reach more people.

Not everything has to be a global battle for all the marbles. Sometimes you're just pissed off that your school has a stupid policy and the administration won't listen to you. No better way to change that than make the news (aside from maybe going after donors).

ronsor 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Got you to talk about it, though, didn't it?

Perhaps it did, although not in favor of what he's seeking.

striking 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

That's all the better for a cause that needs attention. If everyone's to one side then the conversation quickly dies out, while if something is contentious there will be two or more parties keeping it alive.

A protest doesn't need to be perfect and it shouldn't convince everyone who sees it in one shot. A protest that causes outrage is much more effective at reaching whoever it needs to reach.

yifanl 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm sure he'll be happy to eat whatever sama frames in the MOMA too, but you can only protest what's in your reach.

__loam an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Eating all AI "art" that tries to displace real artists in these spaces is the only moral decision.

ronsor an hour ago | parent [-]

I think I'd like to opt out of mob "justice" personally.

testhest 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Its exactly this kind of stunt being called "art" that has devalued the word out of any positive connotations.

krustyburger 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

“No, I didn't know about the exhibit before that day. And then I saw the Al piece and it was just—as an artist myself, it was insulting to see something of such little effort alongside all these beautiful pieces in the gallery. It shouldn't be acceptable for this "art," if you will, to be put alongside these real great pieces.”

What an impulsive fellow.

jackyinger an hour ago | parent | next [-]

In art one often follows impulses. Art is about expression after all.

Plus, if these were really AI creations new copies can be printed. Unless the human “co-creator” did something like paint on the work after printing, not much has been damaged.

notahacker 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

Someone, somewhere is disappointed they didn't think of the idea of videoing someone eating AI art as an art exhibit first...

numpad0 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's just garbage in garbage out. AIs reliably induce rage and negativity in humans. Humans become angry and violent if shown AI generated data. It's just a fact at this point.

And it's not even like software engineers are special in that regard. Everyone here is quick to spot and express their opinions on use of AI in articles and everyone seem to like to have their words on rampant vibecoded pull requests.

Freedom of thought and speech means you're free to expect people to thank you for spitting on them, and also that nobody else than you would be responsible for that insanity of yours.

ronsor 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

> AIs reliably induce rage and negativity in humans. Humans become angry and violent if shown AI generated data. It's just a fact at this point.

This is more conditioning from moral panic mobs than an innate trait. One could also say that TV makes humans angry and violent, or we could simply stop watching cable news.

aimor an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Don't take him to the MoMA he'll need his stomach pumped.

LinuxAmbulance 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

The MoMA has some of the best art pieces I've seen out of the hundred plus museums I've been to.

It also has by far some of the absolute worst art pieces I've seen in my life - in person, or otherwise. One of them was literally a pile of trash.

I used to think that art shouldn't have any gatekeepers, but I've begun to wonder if maybe it should.

chente 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They're right and this also reminds me of the banana that was sold and eaten at Art Basel.

publicdebates an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> It shouldn't be acceptable for this "art," if you will,

He didn't even will. Why did he encourage others to? Misguided etiquette.

jollyllama 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe he was hungry.

corv 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Really goes to say something about starving artists

Ronsenshi an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Unfortunately AI "art" has about the same amount of nutritional value as artistic value.

I'd recommend him to go for oil paintings.

adolph an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

  CW: Have you ever been in an eating contest?

  GG: Yeah, a long long time ago. I did a mashed potato eating contest at a renaissance fair back in Georgia.
danesparza 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

As much as I wanted to roll my eyes, this did give me a chuckle.

flufluflufluffy 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I tried reading the article but after the third time the page’s scroll state reset on its own due to all the dynamic ads/popups/notices, I had to give up.

Avicebron 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

On mobile the site is unreadable. The red banner at the bottom goes from taking up half the screen to a quater when using the caret to minimize. I was then immediately served a full page ad about Ron Howard when I tried to scroll down..

Something something, "it's arrested development"

hiprob an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"No officers, I don't know where the AI art exhibit went" Suspiciously AI art exhibit shaped belly:

stryan 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Finally, a proper example of direct action.

axus 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

CW: Do you use AI for anything?

GG: I don’t really use it period. I miss the Wikipedia blurbs being at the top of webpages. If I’m looking up a simple math fact that I don’t know—like what the weight of something is—I’ll look at the AI summary, but I never, almost never, hit the expand button.

treis 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

Holy rationalization Batman

t1205-1227 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People used to get arrested for infringing copyright, now they get arrested (or murdered, see below) for defending it.

And the thieves sit in Davos, together with representatives of a party that wants to steal IP, Greenland, Venezuela and many other things.

And the press appeases the thieves instead of asking about the murder of Suchir Balaji.

adzm 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To eat AI art is human. But to digest it, is divine

prmoustache 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Eating polaroid pictures can't be good for your health.

lbrito 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

He just chewed them and spat them out

mrkeen 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Slightly tangential:

> He initially wanted to press charges because Granger’s act “violates the sanctity of the gallery,” but changed his mind

> Left: Graham Granger after his arraignment outside the court building

I was beginning to think "pressing charges" was a myth (popularised by TV shows like Law & Order) and this article didn't exactly change my mind about that.

Do US state attorneys actually give two shits about what the victim wants? Is it someone's job to read an email inbox and systematically approve/reject citizens' pressed charges? Do they even pretend to?

victorbjorklund 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You don’t wanna leave it up to the victim all the time because that opens up for pressuring victims into dropping the charges and some victims will just drop charges because they are scared (people assaulted by their partner, mob-victims etc)

jabroni_salad 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ultimately there are some types of cases where if the victim does not want to cooperate, it isn't going to succeed.

Also, government attorneys can be elected officials. Spending time achieving nothing against a bunch of uncooperative screwball artists isn't going to be something to brag about on the campaign trail.

HWR_14 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Usually the attorneys who handle this are not state level but county or city level. In general they have so many cases to handle that victims who don't want the case pursued will cause them to drop the case.

jnwatson 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Participation of the victim makes prosecution easier. That's all pressing charges means, even if it isn't what many people understand it to be.

zoklet-enjoyer 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A performance artist criticizing an AI artist for low effort. Hmm

IAmBroom 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There are performance artists literally risking their lives to make political protest art.

Your stereotypes do not emcompass all of the world.

hiprob an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

at least they actually get to do something

aaronbrethorst 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Next he should go eat Sherrie Levine photographs. https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/267214