Em-dashes may be hard to type on a laptop, but they're extremely easy to type on iOS—you just hold down the "-" key, as with many other special characters—so I use them fairly frequently when typing on that platform.

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carbocation 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Em-dashes are easy to type on a macos laptop for what it's worth: option-shift-minus.

	▲	sltkr 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Also on Linux when you enable the compose key: alt-dash-dash-dash (--- → —) and for the en-dash: alt-dash-dash-dot (--. → –)
	▲	bigstrat2003 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		That's not as easy as just hitting the hyphen key, nor are most people going to be aware that even exists. I think it's fair to say that the hyphen is far easier to use than an em dash.

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wk_end 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But why when the “-“ works just as well and doesn’t require holding the key down?

You’re not the first person I’ve seen say that FWIW, but I just don’t recall seeing the full proper em-dash in informal contexts before ChatGPT (not that I was paying attention). I can’t help but wonder if ChatGPT has caused some people - not necessarily you! - to gaslight themselves into believing that they used the em-dash themselves, in the before time.

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MarkusQ 6 hours ago | parent [-]

No. En-dash doesn't work "just as well" as an em-dash, anymore than a comma works as an apostrophe. They are different punctuation marks.

Also, I was a curmudgeon with strong opinions about punctuation before ChatGPT—heck, even before the internet. And I can produce witnesses.

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kimixa 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In British English you'd be wrong for using an em-dash in those places, with most grammar recommendations being for an en-dash, often with spaces.

It's be just as wrong as using an apostrophe instead of a comma.

Grammar is often wooly in a widely used language with no single centralised authority. Many of the "Hard Rules" some people thing are fundamental truths are often more local style guides, and often a lot more recent than some people seem to believe.

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optimalquiet 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Interesting, I’m an American English speaker but that’s how it feels natural to me to use dashes. Em-dashes with no spaces feels wrong for reasons I can’t articulate. This first usage—in this meandering sentence—feels bossy, like I can’t have a moment to read each word individually. But this second one — which feels more natural — lets the words and the punctuation breathe. I don’t actually know where I picked up this habit. Probably from the web.

	▲	evanelias 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It can also depend on the medium. Typically, newspapers (e.g. the AP style guide) use spaces around em-dashes, but books / Chicago style guide does not.

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fuzzer371 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They mean the same thing to 99.999% of the population.

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