| ▲ | wk_end 7 hours ago |
| But why when the “-“ works just as well and doesn’t require holding the key down? You’re not the first person I’ve seen say that FWIW, but I just don’t recall seeing the full proper em-dash in informal contexts before ChatGPT (not that I was paying attention). I can’t help but wonder if ChatGPT has caused some people - not necessarily you! - to gaslight themselves into believing that they used the em-dash themselves, in the before time. |
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| ▲ | MarkusQ 6 hours ago | parent [-] |
| No. En-dash doesn't work "just as well" as an em-dash, anymore than a comma works as an apostrophe. They are different punctuation marks. Also, I was a curmudgeon with strong opinions about punctuation before ChatGPT—heck, even before the internet. And I can produce witnesses. |
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| ▲ | kimixa 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In British English you'd be wrong for using an em-dash in those places, with most grammar recommendations being for an en-dash, often with spaces. It's be just as wrong as using an apostrophe instead of a comma. Grammar is often wooly in a widely used language with no single centralised authority. Many of the "Hard Rules" some people thing are fundamental truths are often more local style guides, and often a lot more recent than some people seem to believe. | | |
| ▲ | optimalquiet 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Interesting, I’m an American English speaker but that’s how it feels natural to me to use dashes. Em-dashes with no spaces feels wrong for reasons I can’t articulate. This first usage—in this meandering sentence—feels bossy, like I can’t have a moment to read each word individually. But this second one — which feels more natural — lets the words and the punctuation breathe. I don’t actually know where I picked up this habit. Probably from the web. | | |
| ▲ | evanelias 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | It can also depend on the medium. Typically, newspapers (e.g. the AP style guide) use spaces around em-dashes, but books / Chicago style guide does not. |
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| ▲ | fuzzer371 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They mean the same thing to 99.999% of the population. |
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