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astrange 9 hours ago

It doesn't have to exclusively be one or the other.

> If it's not a joke... I have no words. You've all gone insane.

I think this is covered by the part in Yegge's post where he says not to run it unless you're so rich you don't care if it works or not.

chrisjj 9 hours ago | parent [-]

How rich do you have to be not care about the environmental cost?

nl 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think Andrew Ng wrote a great piece on this.

For example, in the US, which do you think uses more water: Golf Courses or Data Centers?

  a) Gold Courses use twice as much water as Data Centers
  b) About the same
  c) Data Centers use twice as much water as Gold Courses
The answer is "None of the above": "Golf courses in the U.S. use around 500 billion gallons annually of water to irrigate their turf [snip] data centers consume [snip] 17 billion gallons, or maybe around 10x that if we include water use from energy generation"

Do you think a Google search or a Gemini query produces more carbon?

> Google had estimated that a single web search query produces 0.2 grams of CO2 emissions. [snip] the median Gemini LLM app query produces a surprisingly low 0.03 grams of CO2 emissions), and uses less energy than watching 9 seconds of television

https://www.deeplearning.ai/the-batch/issue-336/

astrange 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's an Internet meme and not a real issue.

Retr0id 8 hours ago | parent [-]

It might be an internet meme when you're talking about the odd chatgpt free tier query, but burning through tokens at the rate of gas town can probably saturate a rack worth of GPU.