> I think ads will inevitably roll out across all tiers, even the expensive paid ones.

The counter for this is that people hate being double-billed like this.

▲ iamnothere 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The ads may not be announced. If ads can be subtly inserted “organically” through crafted weights then AI companies may try to claim that it isn’t advertising, if it’s even possible to catch them doing this. For instance, advertisers could pay to have their product embedded as the “best” in a category during training. If this is done as a fine-tuning step then it could be re-run later as advertisers and base models change.

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baby_souffle 4 hours ago | parent [-]

How would the billing work for this? So much of advertising technology is tracking for the purposes of attribution.

How does openAI know what to charge for a particular product and category? How do I know if my money was well spent to boost my product in that category?

I don’t think you’re wrong! I’m just curious about how the new pricing models will work.

	▲	yunwal 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> How would the billing work for this? So much of advertising technology is tracking for the purposes of attribution. This isn’t a necessary condition for an ad to exist. When companies pay for their name on a sports stadium, they use various proxies to tell whether their name recognition goes up, but by and large you just don’t know if it’s worth it.

▲ MontyCarloHall 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Counter-counterpoint: people pay exorbitant amounts of money for cable TV channels that still show ads. Even the premium channels (HBO et al.) implicitly show ads in the form of product placement, which incidentally is exactly how I think chatbots will show ads. Most users won't even consciously realize they're there.

▲ doubled112 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Exactly. It'll provide you the how to when prompted, but also include product recommendations from paying companies.

How do I wash my windows? You can use window cleaner and a paper towel. Our recommendation is Windex, an S C Johnson product.

At first it'll annoy us, but eventually we will all get used to it.

	▲	MontyCarloHall 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I think it will be even more subtle than that. `How do I clean my laptop screen?` Use a mix of distilled water and vinegar, and buff gently with a microfiber cloth. Avoid using cleaners like Windex, which is absolutely fantastic for glass but way too powerful for the delicate coatings on laptop screens.

▲ conception 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Once the ad people are the ones making decisions because they are bringing in all/most of the money, inevitably it happens.

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