| ▲ | codezero 8 hours ago |
| The military can very easily find and eliminate repeaters very quickly and almost certainly would. |
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| ▲ | torlok 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Then get more? Sounds like a fantastic way to waste military resources. I have no clue why this mythical US military might and efficiency idea persists after so many failed interventions. |
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| ▲ | subscribed 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Here's a funny example of making it harder to find: https://youtu.be/W_F4rEaRduk?t=178 | | |
| ▲ | bb88 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Triangulation is damn easy. If the US can put on bomb on a suspect satellite phone user back in the 2000's (and they did!), they can certainly send a bomb on that today. Sat phones during the second gulf war (maybe even the first) became a liability. The transmission lit them up like a god damn beacon saying, "Bomb goes here!". | | |
| ▲ | fragmede 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Triangulation, the math isn't the hard part. Where exactly on the continental United States are you proposing dropping ordinance? MOVE in 1985 was controversial even back then. | |
| ▲ | esseph 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Good luck if your mesh network is on 2.4/5/6ghz. It'll blend in with background radiation from home routers. | | |
| ▲ | ssl-3 an hour ago | parent [-] | | It can have challenges, but triangulation can be done with signals that have recognizable patterns or features -- even in a sea of other co-channel noise sources. If you can observe the signal strength of your neighbor's home router while standing next to your own even if the signals differ in strength by some orders of magnitude (which is easy on Android; no idea bout iOS), then anyone else can also do the same. |
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| ▲ | 1shooner 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >the more people who use it, the more robust and far-reaching and reliable it gets. I was under the opposite impression, that meshtastic's whole problem is that it doesn't scale well at all. | | |
| ▲ | bigfatkitten an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Meshtastic uses naive flooding, which is fine for sparse networks (ie you and your three friends out hiking), but which doesn’t scale well at all. | |
| ▲ | culi 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm genuinely interested in learning more about the shortcomings of meshtastic if you have a link to share. Groups like the Anarchist Black Cross seem really supportive of the tech for disaster situations. Even Benn Jordan claimed it played an important role during the floods in NC | | |
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| ▲ | kevin_thibedeau 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The intervention part is an administrative problem the military isn't designed for. For the core mission of collecting intelligence, eliminating targets, and occupying land, the US has an unrivaled track record over the last 85 years. | |
| ▲ | ungreased0675 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You must have missed the S-tier op that went down January 3rd. | | |
| ▲ | torlok 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | That was a single mission planned over months. We're talking about a continuous subjudagtion. |
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| ▲ | bb88 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No, just blast the hell out of the ISM bands on which they operate. This seem certainly feasible for a military apparatus the size of the US. | | |
| ▲ | torlok 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm sure everybody's going to stay on ISM bands to remain compliant with government regulations while being attacked by the government. | | | |
| ▲ | esseph 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The economic impact of that would be massive re: business operational impact. Directional radios would still win out on p2p links. |
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| ▲ | kingkawn 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The interventions fail only after enormous slaughter, which people are understandably keen to not be subject to | | |
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| ▲ | bigfatkitten an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| At no time from 2001-2021 did the Taliban find themselves short on VHF repeaters. If one gets taken down, put up another one. |
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| ▲ | subscribed 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don't think it's going to be military killing a
Americans. As of now it more looks like federal government. Nevertheless, sure, in the rural areas, but less so in the cities, reflections and bending of the waves make it much harder, and a single repeater with solar panel and battery could plausibly be made under $50. |
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| ▲ | bb88 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | A military won't be killing all Americans, just the ones it can label as "terrorists" to the people who elected them. | |
| ▲ | ozfive 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They are being made. I have a four node network already in my suburb. There is a software project that is written in Python that essentially turns lorawan nodes into BBSs similar to briar. |
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| ▲ | culi 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They're incredibly easy to build and even disguise as lawn ornaments as Benn Jordan showed in a recent video. When it costs us less money and time to build them than it costs the gov't to find/destroy them it's a worthy investment |
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| ▲ | ozfive 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Maybe ham repeaters but when we are talking lorawan they will have a hell of a time taking the networks down that are already established. Just in my suburb we have more than 6000 nodes because of the helium network. |
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| ▲ | esseph 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It would be futile. It's a big country full of 340,000,000 people. Great way to waste resources though. |
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| ▲ | vfclists 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Isn't stopping abuses of the power of the military the reason for the 2nd Amendment? Why don't the people in Minnesota go open carry and let ICE agents think twice before drawing their weapons on people? |
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| ▲ | soulofmischief 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Renee Good was killed after dropping off her six-year-old child at school. I agree with you, but people like her have children and are not trying to die in the street just for looking at somebody the wrong way. And it's one thing to open carry, it's another thing to become a trained and confident marksmen. And as someone who has had half a dozen police officers simultaneously pointing guns at my head, mistaking me for someone else in public, once you're in that situation, escalation is only going to lead to death. Out here, police shoot you if your hand goes anywhere near your waist. | |
| ▲ | bb88 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >Isn't stopping abuses of the power of the military the reason for the 2nd Amendment? It was for establishing well ordered militias. They could be used to help defend the country in a time of war. > Why don't the people in Minnesota go open carry and let ICE agents think twice before drawing their weapons on people? Most of the demonstrators believe that "the pen is mightier than the sword", and non-violence is the way to achieve political means. (Ghandi, MLK jr.) When the peace-niks start amassing guns, that's when you have a tipping point in this country. | | |
| ▲ | hrimfaxi 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | What's the definition of a well-ordered militia? A bunch of farmers that go shooting together? | | |
| ▲ | futuraperdita an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Alexander Hamilton explains his definition of what "well-regulated" is - and the purpose of a citizen militia - in contrast to the standing army in the Federalist Papers, No. 29. Most of the idea has become much more federalized than intended with the National Guard, but it has long since been misused for its intended purpose. | |
| ▲ | bb88 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | A bunch of farmers that go shooting drunk. /s Seriously though, everyone back in the 1700s realized that all Americans were American. I'm not sure that's true any more. | | |
| ▲ | hrimfaxi 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Seriously though, everyone back in the 1700s realized that all Americans were American. I'm not sure that's true any more. What was an American in the 1700s? A person born in America? |
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| ▲ | trhway 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Repeater coupled with [autonomous] drone to change [hard-to-get-to rooftop, treetop and the likes] location every 10 minutes like in a combat zone. |
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