Here's a funny example of making it harder to find: https://youtu.be/W_F4rEaRduk?t=178

Triangulation is damn easy. If the US can put on bomb on a suspect satellite phone user back in the 2000's (and they did!), they can certainly send a bomb on that today.

Sat phones during the second gulf war (maybe even the first) became a liability. The transmission lit them up like a god damn beacon saying, "Bomb goes here!".

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fragmede 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Triangulation, the math isn't the hard part. Where exactly on the continental United States are you proposing dropping ordinance? MOVE in 1985 was controversial even back then.

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esseph 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Good luck if your mesh network is on 2.4/5/6ghz.

It'll blend in with background radiation from home routers.

	▲	ssl-3 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		It can have challenges, but triangulation can be done with signals that have recognizable patterns or features -- even in a sea of other co-channel noise sources. If you can observe the signal strength of your neighbor's home router while standing next to your own even if the signals differ in strength by some orders of magnitude (which is easy on Android; no idea bout iOS), then anyone else can also do the same.

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1shooner 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>the more people who use it, the more robust and far-reaching and reliable it gets.

I was under the opposite impression, that meshtastic's whole problem is that it doesn't scale well at all.

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bigfatkitten an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Meshtastic uses naive flooding, which is fine for sparse networks (ie you and your three friends out hiking), but which doesn’t scale well at all.

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culi 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm genuinely interested in learning more about the shortcomings of meshtastic if you have a link to share. Groups like the Anarchist Black Cross seem really supportive of the tech for disaster situations. Even Benn Jordan claimed it played an important role during the floods in NC

	▲	1shooner 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		My understanding is that it relates to the flood routing in meshtastic. I haven't heard a real-world failure example, but another comment on this post mentioned defcon being a case (I don't know anything about that). I did find this assessment: https://www.disk91.com/2024/technology/lora/critical-analysi... And here is Meshtastics explanation of the rationale behind 'managed flood routing': https://meshtastic.org/blog/why-meshtastic-uses-managed-floo... I think I first heard about the differences from Andy Kirby, one of the MeshCore creators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNWf0Mh2fJw