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ynac 6 hours ago

I'm down to just a few sweat shirts and over shirts from the 80s, but they are hanging in there. Both the colors and the fabric. When the subject comes up with friends who ask about a particular shirt I joke, "The cotton was tougher back then". Recently, I've had jeans, shirts, and even socks that didn't make it through a single summer.

Is anyone else freaked out about cleaning their dryer's lint filter given all the new fabric materials? I'm putting together a dryer-vac system to keep it from billowing into the air of our small laundry room.

ravenstine 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I can confirm that you really don't want to breathe in any of that crap.

A year and a half ago I developed symptoms of what was some form of bronchitis. Lots of mucus, constantly coughing, etc. I was pretty freaking sick. I tend to wait some things like this out, but it wasn't going away so I went to a doctor and got some medications including albuterol and some kind of steroid (prednisone, I think). It got a little more manageable, but didn't seem to be getting any better.

One day, I realized how much of a dumbass I was the whole time.

The apartment I was living in had a laundry room, but it was tiny and I got tired of both hauling laundry up and down multiple flights of stairs and having to fight for time with the few machines that were there. I bought a small washer and dryer pair from Black & Decker which were designed for apartment living. Kinda off topic, but there were no hookups in my unit, so I had to jerryrig a water connection using some collapsible garden hoses that connected to my shower and its drain. Was kinda hilarious but worked great.

I made the mistake of thinking that I could just allow the dryer to blow through two sets of lint traps and have a fan blow air out of the window to manage moisture and remaining lint making it through. What I didn't realize was how inadequate the traps were. Because I worked from home, I spent a lot of time in that bedroom, including when the dryer was running. I was breathing in all sorts of stuff without knowing it.

Once I stopped hanging out in that room while the dryer was running, bought an air purifier, and made sure to frequently clean my apartment of dust, my symptoms rapidly started to go away.

If I had to do all of that again, and I couldn't just have the dryer blow directly out the window, I would find some way to have it do a second pass through a HEPA filter, perhaps after drying the air with something like calcium chloride.

I shudder to think of all the microplastic fibers that remain somewhere in my body.

d3ad1ysp0rk a minute ago | parent [-]

Also definitely look into ventless dryers - while not as quick as a vented one, the heat pump versions have come a long way from the classic condenser styles of the past.

jazzyjackson 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's still good fabrics out there you just have to pay for them. I've mostly replaced my wardrobe now with natural undyed cottons and wools from the likes of "unbleached apparel" and "industry of all nations". There is cotton grown in new mexico, socks spun in north carolina. "Filson" makes a few things in Seattle. Don't skip the stuff made in Peru or India neither.

vyaa 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you have any brand recommendations?

piffey 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Outside of what has been mentioned here (thanks folks for some new brands) I've found clusters in Canada and Portugal of great clothing brands making quality products with good materials:

Canada - Anian (https://anianmfg.com/) for wool products. - Reigning Champ (https://reigningchamp.com/) for cotton tees.

Portugal - La Paz (https://lapaz.pt/) - Isto (https://isto.pt/) - Portugese Flannel (https://www.portugueseflannel.com/)

I also like this site No Man Walks Alone to find quality brands. It is about learning how to spot quality though in stitching and fabrics. Wish there was more educational materials out there on this.

helterskelter 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

$.02:

- American Giant is pretty good for their pullover hoodies. They'll wear out at the cuffs first, but I've kept a single hoody in use for like five years with some repair stitching.

- Standard Issue makes good waffle knit shirts. They'll last a few years depending on how often you wash them.

- Duluth Trading makes some good cotton shirts and boxers. Quality has declined slightly, but they're the best plain cotton shirts and boxers I've found so far.

- Big John makes denim jeans on old Levi looms. They even use cotton stitching.

- Carhartt makes some okay dressy dungarees. Their work pants are worthless these days though (in my experience). They've been pivoting to lifestyle for a few years now.

- Filson in my opinion has declined, but they're still pretty good. The socks are great, but they're overpriced.

(Only posting this because I've struggled finding decent clothes myself and it's hard to tell what's good when you're shopping online)

Loughla 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Darn tough for socks and Brunt for hoodies, I would add to this list. I'm hard on clothes and they survive me.

banku_brougham 2 hours ago | parent [-]

darn tough live up to the name. pendelton wool socks, icebreaker, smart wool all burnt out pretty fast.

lemoncucumber 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They also have a lifetime warranty which is great. With enough use their socks still eventually wear out, but you can get a new pair for free.

irishcoffee 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> Carhartt makes some okay dressy dungarees. Their work pants are worthless these days though (in my experience). They've been pivoting to lifestyle for a few years now.

Carhartt are the most durable clothes I own. Whatever Levi’s did, their jeans went from lasting years to literal months before they would rip. Had the same 3 pairs of Carhartt work pants for half a decade with no end in sight.

Maybe something changed between 2020 and 2025, shrug

stuxnet79 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Rather than focus on brand, I'd recommend developing a better eye and learning how to identify durable, high quality fabrics.

While looking at the brand might be a good heuristic to rely on in the short term, the temptation is too high for vendors to take advantage of their brand power to offload cheaper fabrics for higher margins, I'm looking at you H&M and UNIQLO ...

oslem 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

H&M is awful, but Uniqlo has some great products that will last. I’m a big fan of a few of their t-shirts, especially the heavy cotton tees. You really gotta get your hands on each product to know what’s worth the money though.

Centigonal an hour ago | parent [-]

Uniqlo does still have some gems, but it's been rapidly enshittifying. My uniqlo clothes from 2019 are incomparable to what they have today. Some of their stuff is still good, but it's a game of roulette every time, because they'll replace products with very similarly branded new versions that suck.

stuxnet79 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

This matches my experience. 2019 was about the last time you could walk into a Uniqlo, grab an item at random and walk out with something reasonable. Just after that we had Covid and the everything bubble which broke a lot of companies. Uniqlo was one of the casualties.

They either had to dramatically increase the price or lower the quality. They chose the latter. You get what you pay for.

Vrondi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Along these lines, watch these two videos from Bernadette Banner to learn how to identify fabric types and learn how to identify quality features in clothing:

https://youtu.be/qtJ5ukWundY?si=xzOyiwrrt8oTgpii

https://youtu.be/fuVU64m1sbw?si=5reXwGwVu2j5pTL1

RGamma an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And this where the (independent!) physical store shines. I wish we had more discerning tradesmen these days. Something important went with the brick and mortar stores.

Some of these exist now in the form of (maybe) physical store (or online-only) plus youtube personality, of course.

rico_rodriguez 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I went through an Uniqlo last month and was very disappointed at how just about every sort of basic article of clothing I was looking for was at least 30% polyester. Polyester has its place, the fact its not breathable and cheap does make it genuinely useful in moderation to help warm certain articles, but I don't want it in every single basic t shirt and pair of pants.

You can still get high quality or at the very least 100% Cotton clothes there but you'll have to seek them out and they know people will pay a premium for them so they tend to be 2x or more the price of the popular Airism t shirts for example.

I did give up entirely on trying to find outerwear there that was at least roughly >80% organic materials like cotton or wool which was probably my biggest disappointment. You can find nice basics with good quality fabrics at many brands. But Uniqlo 10 years ago was my favorite for wintertime because they're one of the few that had affordable coats and outerwear that made use of real wool + down with good quality lining, excellent heat-tech jackets that used a great blend of breathable fabric + artificial ones to keep you warm but not sweating. I've worn an Uniqlo duffel coat, peacoat, and several jackets every year for the better part of a decade and they still hold up excellent besides some pilling on the coats that I haven't fixed yet.

They don't even really seem to carry proper coats anymore in their stores nor decent jackets, everything seems like the cheap polyester fleeces and puffer coats that everyone else has.

trimethylpurine 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's even more complicated. Many brands don't manufacture their own products. Or only manufacture some of them. They license to many manufacturers, typically. The same manufacturer may make the same or similar products for multiple brands too, even further complicating things.

As you've said, you really can't judge by the brand.

fratlas an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nudies jeans are worth the premium (ish) price, and have lifetime free repairs. Extremely comfortable too. Going on 5 years in my current pair

Vrondi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Supima Cotton t-shirts from Lands End are great. Or, "100% Pima Cotton" from anyone else.

bakies 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

they gave two :)

my own recommendation is spend some money, and look at tags. I shop at JCrew and higher end fashion companies, but still check material and care labels.

ck45 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

T-shirts from Muji

65 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Snow Peak has high quality clothing that isn't absurdly expensive. It's very nice and fits well. If you want something higher end I also like Norse Projects. If you want lower end look at Champion - specifically Reverse Weave.

iamacyborg 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

18East if you want cool shit made in India

sitharus 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just try to buy natural or the semi-synthetic cellulose fabrics, there's quite a variety.

Natural fabrics are cotton, silk, wool and linen of course, but the semi-synthetic fabrics like the rayons (viscose, modal, "bamboo", Tencel, Lyocell, Bemberg, and some sorts of artificial silk) are wood cellulose chemically rearranged so they're just cellulose when they reach you.

The fabric referred to as Acetate is cellulose acetate, so not pure cellulose like cotton and rayon but is just as biodegradable and contains no petroleum plastics.

Of course the production process for viscose rayons (not Tencel/Lyocell/Modal - those use a different process) isn't great. It uses carbon disulfide which is a neurotoxin. However it's not a persistent pollutant. Modern factories in the west try to capture and recycle as much carbon disulfide as possible (it's released from the rayon during processing and can be fed back in to the process) but as a lot of factories are in countries with poor controls on this it's hard to tell how many are doing this.

troyvit 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't have any clothes as old as yours though for sure, but line drying generally helps your clothes last longer. I'm so glad I live in Colorado. It's a warm winter, but it takes like 3 hours to dry stuff on the line (especially synthetics). Of course that means all my synthetic fibers are literally billowing into the air I guess. Still, we've been going without a dryer for about five years now and I've had no regrets.

owlninja 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My strategy forever is to wash all my shirts, put them in the dryer on low for 5 minutes, then hang them all up in a doorway overnight. My clothes last much longer this way and never get wrinkled.

awkward 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Folding drying racks come in several shapes and are very affordable.

DANmode 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As long as that doorway isn’t made of wood,

or have any cracks for air to enter the door or doorjam,

that 90% relative humidity should be no problem!

dredmorbius an hour ago | parent [-]

Indoor air during wintertime tends to be low humidity in many places, with most residences running humidifiers to reach a comfortable (~35% RH) level. Clothes-drying will both benefit from the first and assist in the latter.

(California is a notable exception.)

In places which are humid during winter-time, cracking a few windows open will allow for equalisation with the outside, again keeping indoor humidity reasonable.

jarjoura 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you live in a liminal hall of doorways? LOL

dylan604 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I use my line in Texas, and 3 hours would see the clothes go from wet -> dry -> melted! And that's in the shade!

Unfortunately, the line dried clothes are not soft, so I end up fluffing them in the drier using the air dry setting. Still cheaper than running the heating element, but hasn't eliminated the drier for me.

chao- 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Hah! I live in (I presume) a different part of Texas, and 3 hours on a line might not even see clothes go from "wet" to "damp" in the shade!

dylan604 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It does make it hard to dry clothes when the humidity level is >90% even if you have triple digit temps!

jarjoura 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I had a european friend introduce me to indoor drying racks, and since, anything I plan to keep long term, I hang dry as well. I've found my clothes last longer and look nicer. Only thing I've found doesn't work well are towels.

mrspuratic 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I got a Foxydry (Italy) wall-mounted rack a few years back, best €100 I spent that year. Bottom rack folds up flush to the wall, top rack raises nearly to the ceiling. Towels dry fine spread over extra bar or three to allow for better air circulation.

lo_zamoyski 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Or, if you are using a dryer, keep the heat low to moderate.

epolanski 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have recently started refusing to buy all of this plastic filled clothes. If I see any % of it I don't buy it. Period.

I spend much more upfront for clothes, but I gain a lot long term. Clothes don't look terrible after few washings and they tend to last forever.

jjice 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why? Polyester (as one plastic based fiber) gets a lot of flack because low quality clothes tend to use it, but polyester can be a fantastic fabric if done right. Durable, fast drying, and can be completely recycled.

For example, Patagonia tends to have high quality polyesters and has since the 70s. My experience with their fleece is that I can abuse it and it'll come out unaffected on the other end. Pilling now and then that I take down with a pill remover.

Nylon is also a fantastic material, when used appropriately, like for the shell of a jacket.

And don't get me wrong, cotton, wool, and hemp are all fantastic as well. Most of my clothing is those fabrics and they do a damn fine job at what they're good at.

epolanski 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I used to have Patagonia clothing and even washing them rather gently would leave a quite a bunch of plastic in the washing machine.

I just don't like plastics and try to avoid them as much as possible.

oslem 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Polyester is great for performance clothing where you need lots of moisture, but it retains stench really poorly compared to other materials.

When I travel, I love my merino + nylon shirts because I can wear them for days without washing and they fairly durable.

soulofmischief 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

One problem with polyester is the amount of microplastics which enter the water supply when washing them. It's an unacceptable amount.

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cyberax 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Polyester is biodegradable, albeit slowly.

_whiteCaps_ 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Unfortunately too slowly for salmon and other pollution sensitive species.

copperx 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Everything is biodegradable, given enough time.

soulofmischief 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Citation needed.

sitharus 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Degradation Rates of Plastics in the Environment (https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acssuschemeng.9b06635) shows PET degrading very slowly in the environment. _Very_ slowly.

Researchers have found bacteria that do degrade PET using esterases though: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aad6359 and https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041202...

So I guess technically it's biodegradable? Though as it's an energy source give bacteria a few hundred years or so.

cyberax 34 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

"Polyesters" is a huge category. PET in plastic bottles is also a polyester, and it can persist for hundreds of years because it's typically in a highly crystalline form that resists fragmentation.

I was talking about polyester fibers. They have multiple orders of magnitude higher surface-area-to-weight ratio.

There are very few good studies of the degradation rate, and they typically focus on bulk products rather than particulates. So we have to rely on indirect evidence, the concentration of nanoplastics near polluted locations typically stays steady rather than keeps increasing. It means that it's in a dynamic equilibrium.

Another data point is lignin. It's a bilogical polymer, but that is not biodegradable in bulk, unless you are a fungus. And fungi don't have some neat enzymes that can degrade it, they just blast it with peroxides. And yes, there are lignin nanoparticles and you can detect them in water. These nanoparticles also don't accumulate and they can be degraded by bacteria because of their high surface area. Even though bacteria can NOT degrade bulk lignin.

zweih 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'd rather not be breathing in what it sheds.

gibspaulding 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’ve been going the same direction lately. We have enough plastic in our environment, the last thing I need is to be wearing it. It’s probably a bit paranoid just from a health perspective, but I’ve found that I genuinely prefer the feel/look of natural fibers.

sva_ 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pro tip: if your clothes say 100% merino wool or whatever, this is only about the fiber, and they may still be covered in plastic from the "superwash" process (for example, almost all merino wool is)

copperx 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Oh, so that's why my fancy 100% Merino wool sweaters don't stink like wet dog when wet, like regular vintage wool sweaters? I know there had to something different in the manufacturing process.

Melatonic an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Link to more details ?

adrianN 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I once bought 100% hemp pants because I heard that material is tougher than cotton, but my bicycle seat killed the pants in just a few weeks. Modern jeans last a few months to a year. I have yet to find pants that endure a bicycle commute.

dghlsakjg 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Look for pants with a "gusseted crotch". There are also bicycle specific commuting pants that have this feature.

cyberax 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I tried that but quickly found out that a bit of polyester makes clothes MUCH more durable. It doesn't matter for bath robes, but underwear or socks with just 5% of polyester last almost 10x longer.

LUmBULtERA 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, I've started being a bit concerned about inhaling all the tiny plastic fibers every time I clean the filters and wondering what could be doing to my lunges.

themafia 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do not dry your cotton shirts in the dryer. It's as easy as that. You hang them up and let them air dry. They'll last forever.

teruakohatu 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In New Zealand, culturally people generally use dryers only when it is too wet to hang them outside. Dryers are seen as wasteful and destructive. T-shirts last longer but they do not last forever. Quality has gone down substantially.

cycomanic 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes completely agree. I always hang up my washing (also in NZ, don't have a dryer) and was recently sorting through my tshirts as we are moving country. I have one t-shirt that is nearly 20 years old and still holds its shape (though the color and print has faded) on the other hand i threw away a bunch of other t shirts which were just over a year old because they developed holes and particularly the collar is completely broken. Funnily their color and print is mostly fine.

I don't think brand is a good predictor either, e.g. the old t shirt is from threadless IIRC while I had many other threadless tshirts which didn't last near as long.

Vrondi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But I have 90s t-shirts that are just now dying after all these years of being dried only in an electric dryer, and other t-shirts just a few years old that are disintegrating. There's definitely been a quality change in the average shirt.

themafia 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

Inflation halved the value of money since the 90s. If you haven't been paying double for your shirts then the quality hasn't changed but your price expectations subtly did.

We see this everywhere. Manufacturers moving to more disposable products to keep the average prices within consumer expectations. Shirts and Cars certainly ain't "what they used to be."

stickfigure 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Cotton shirts aren't valuable enough to treat this gingerly. I hang dry my merino, but it's easier to just buy new cotton shirts every five years or so. That's a good run for clothing.

SapporoChris an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hang dry clothing to avoid the drying machine issues all together and it is much gentler on the clothing.

thrawa8387336 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I had the exhaust vent disconnect. Still think of the amount of microplastics I must have inhaled then

kazinator 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My following comment is not about clothes, but not long ago I washed some curtains that were hanging in a window for some fifteen years. The amount of lint that came out in the dryer was incredible. I'm talking inch-thick wad on the filter screen, growing another inch with continued drying, after being removed.

It was probably due to years of UV breakdown of the fibers from daylight.

nezi 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I hold my breath when I clean the lint trap, replace it and start the drier, then leave the laundry room and take a breath. I’m still probably inhaling some fibers but it makes me feel like I’m doing something.

dragonwriter 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Probably be easier to just where an N95 (or even a cloth mask, these aren't really small particles) when changing the lint trap, to the extent this is a concern.

ynac 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That was me - until today. Now I've got a newish Dyson that was annoying to use on floors stashed under the water heater with a sneaky hose extension that flips up to deal with lint without even removing the filter all the way. It has a good filter on it and the container should hold months of lint.

Next question...how do I empty the Dyson container. Ha!

dec0dedab0de an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I hadn’t considered that, but I have also paid to get my laundry done for the last 15+ years, it is the greatest luxury.

IAmBroom 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You are actually seeing something the linked article doesn't even mention: fiber length.

Not all cotton is created equally. "Egyptian cotton" was long prized because of the long fiber lengths. Cotton fibers are very smooth and slick, and only stay together in thread because of friction along their length as they lay with neighbor fibers (often twisted, where friction becomes exponential instead of linear). Short-fiber cotton is cheaper and easier to source; ergo, cheaper clothing tends to be made of it. Short fibers are also much more likely to slip within the thread under heat, lubrication, and motion (washing and drying). Obviously, they are also more likely to completely fall out of the thread, creating lint.

This is really only true for cotton and very similar fibers. Linen fibers are generally all multiple inches long, so there's less of a quality issue (they are made from rotting away everything but the longitudinal support fibers of the plant stalks).

Wool varies greatly in surface texture, especially after modern chemical processing, and fiber length isn't an issue because the fibers are also inch-long or better. It shrinks, however, because its friction is SO HIGH that it won't give up (stretch back) once it gets bound up.

Silk fibers super slick, but are several yards/meters long; a single cocoon is made from a single thread. They are much slicker than cotton (and therefore harder to hand-spin), but by the time they are made into thread they have plenty of surface friction maintaining their position in the thread.

Artificial fibers are as long as the production shift lasts, so effectively infinite.

coryrc an hour ago | parent [-]

Unfortunately about linen, they often "cottonize" it to use on cotton machines. They just chop that long fiber into short ones, negating much of the benefit. I haven't figured out how to tell the difference.

cyberax 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Is anyone else freaked out about cleaning their dryer's lint filter given all the new fabric materials?

I used to be. So I spent quite a lot of time researching the issue. Not just google searches, but actually speaking with biologists.

I think that the current microplastic scare is overblown. The "credit card worth of plastic in brain" articles are just ridiculous. Biologically, the body has defenses against microscopic contaminants in blood. There are special immune cells that "eat" insoluble particles and then get excreted (typically in bile).

It looks like I'm not alone in my bafflement: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/scary-research-... or https://www.vox.com/climate/475004/microplastics-research-fa...

dekhn 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Nearly every environment-adjacent field has concern nannies who make unrealistic risk assessments which then get regurgitated into guilt-inspiring newspaper articles. This is especially common when there is no way to determine for certain what the actual risk is; some folks fall on the "allow zero risk" side.

cyberax 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Some concern is warranted. I think that plasticizer or dyes leaching from plastics is a very real problem, so I try to avoid food stored in plastic containers (this includes tin cans, they are often lined with plastic).

This is a solvable problem, though. Polyethylene doesn't need plasticizers.