> They buy, consume and throw away before reaching home.

That would require a crazy high amount of smoking. AFAIK, disposable vapes usually last about a week.

The fault lies with vape manufacturers. It’s big tobacco. They are soulless ghouls.

I think just an oversight—disposables weren't really around at the time the time that the ban happened. 2019, people were mostly smoking Juul and having those crazy custom rigs that they fill with the juice. Disposables really started to take off around 2021 - 2022. Atleast that's what I saw with people around me in NY and California.

Yeah, in my state, with disposable I can get any flavor. But if I want juice or pods, I can only get nasty tobacco flavor. It's an easy choice.

Also, when you do get juice online or from other states, it doesn't hit as hard / the same as whatever they put in the disposables. Someone told me it's because the disposables have vitamin E acetate in them that makes the nicotine get absorbed into your blood quicker.

I think the disposables go around more regulations, which mean the chinese manufacturers can put more addictive stuff in the pods / disposables.

If true I wonder if that has to do with this incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%932020_vaping_lung_...

Everyone I know who vapes nicotine is a junkie about it.

In fact, nicotine habits can be harder to kick than heroin. I know plenty of people who have tried to kick nicotine many times and cannot stay off of it.

Anyway, it's moot, because outright banning tobacco is insane.

There were two countries in the 20th century which tried to ban alcohol. Both had a.. very lasting consequences.

You can't "just ban" it or "ban it properly". You would get a very nasty black market and things with such ban.

There aren't really alcohol or cannabis junkies like heroin either. That didn't make prohibition or the war on drugs successful.

Wow that is stupid. NZ banned disposable or non-rechargeable vapes only, refillable/pod-swappable and rechargeable ones are still on sale.

They're not all banned, you just need a prescription to get one which realistically should've been implemented day 0.

Eventually it'll prove very impactful with the youth, it'll reduce the number of users and make it more cost prohibitive to be so prolific as it is right now.

> If alcohol came inside of little battery powered computers, we should ban those too.

I too am agnostic but do not understand this reasoning. BTW let me get severely downvoted by saying that if alcohol prohibition came up for a vote I'd vote yes in a heartbeat.

Thanks for the clarification, I can see banning disposable vapes but still allowing reusable ones.

If that's how you you define work, prohibition worked.

Prohibition works to stop some people.

It doesn't stop addicts from craving and it doesn't curb the appeal of the product. People who think tobacco/nicotine bans would work are people who think they don't have any positive effect associated with them.

People don't smoke because the evil cigarette companies tricked them and now they are addicted. It's a drug, it feels good to do it.

A tobacco/nicotine ban will end up exactly like aby other recreational drug prohibition.