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troyvit a day ago

A scourge to what, exactly?

sothatsit a day ago | parent | next [-]

Human flourishing

pennaMan a day ago | parent | prev [-]

To the human race. The only reason we're not living miserable animal lives is because of technological progress. Wanting to slow that down means you are anti human.

Jon_Lowtek a day ago | parent | next [-]

So your think that AI systems that pose a significant risk to basic human rights at scale, should not be subject to oversight and regulation, because that would be anti-human?

wizzwizz4 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The industrial revolution created slums. Social progress made those go away – and I'm sure the factory owners decried it just as vehemently.

pennaMan a day ago | parent [-]

The industrial revolution also created clean drinking-water systems, sewerage and wastewater treatment, basic sanitation and hygiene infrastructure, mass-produced vaccination, antibiotics, antisepsis and sterilization, anesthesia, obstetric and neonatal care technology, refrigeration and cold-chain logistics, food safety and industrial food processing, pasteurization, canning, mechanized agriculture, synthetic fertilizers, modern crop breeding and seed systems, electrification and power grids, hospital infrastructure engineering and medical imaging.

To name a few.

wizzwizz4 a day ago | parent | next [-]

The industrial revolution created a few of those things, but the term refers to a specific period of economic development between (quoth Wikipedia) "c. 1760 . c. 1840", where the production of several classes of goods was mechanised. Not all technological development since the 18th century is the industrial revolution. To pick one example from your list: synthetic fertilisers are largely due to the Haber process iirc, which was a 20th-century invention.

arter45 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Of course, new technology usually allows to do stuff that wasn't possible before, or maybe do stuff faster.

The point is how we use technology.

Without going to WW2 technology extremes, think about AI systems generating pictures of naked people from a regular picture. Regardless of the fact that this was already more or less possible using Photoshop or other tools (as I said before, technology is not always about new things, maybe it's about faster workflows), is there a clear net benefit to society when comparing pros and cons?

This doesn't mean that you should forbid all kinds of innovation, but if you're running a service (people keep interacting with you, they don't just buy stuff and use that at home) and a data-driven one at that (you know how people use your service because that's part of how you make money), some degree of responsibility should be expected.

If I buy a coconut and I use it to hurt someone, the original seller doesn't know it, but if I keep renting cars to hide bodies and the rental company has cameras inside the car as part of their business model, at some point the company could say "hey, what about this guy? What should we do about him?". And if for some reason it turns out that most customers rent cars for that reason, I would hope at some point someone would think "hey, how did we get to this situation? What should we do?".