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alex1138 3 hours ago

This is true with a lot of companies. If you made people actually use their own product (do they?!) maybe they'd think twice before doing boneheaded things

Then again, I get the biological desire to put food on the table for one's family and therein lies the problem

userbinator 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you made people actually use their own product (do they?!)

Yes, they do. Unfortunately even MS employees are powerless to do anything about the crap that gets shoved into Windows by other employees working at the company, and the ones who complain about it are quietly shown the door or have already left of their own will, leaving only those who are completely apathetic or...

Then again, I get the biological desire to put food on the table for one's family and therein lies the problem

Exactly. That and the desire to remain in the country --- part of the reason why companies like H-1Bs so much is because they are going to be far more docile and less willing to resist doing things they feel are wrong.

yoyohello13 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I remember I was at a Python conference some years ago and every Microsoft dev I saw had a MacBook. So no, I don’t think they use their own product internally.

dmix 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The only thing worse than work-from-office is mandatory work-on-windows.

jiggawatts 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If only there was something Microsoft’s developers could do about that…

ethagnawl 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

As an aside, I used to know a number of MS heads who ran Windows on Mac Intel machines because they preferred the hardware (~2014 MBP) and/or because they ostensibly worked at Mac shops and were handed one upon entry.

gerdesj 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"I get the biological desire to put food on the table for one's family and therein lies the problem"

They don't make money (put bread on the table) by selling Windows any more. That is soooo 2000s.

Income is from data mining and from subscriptions to cloudy offerings that are mostly MVP (Minimum Viable Product).

Oh, and hyping their perceived value to the point that the term "meme stock" is no longer just a joke.