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lukan 3 hours ago

Can you show me, where exactly Joshua Bach stands for intolerance?

BoredPositron 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You've read the email exchange with epstein?

How billions dieng to famine would be a good thing or culling the elderly and infirm?

Don't even know why I bother answering.

lukan 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I read just parts of it. Can you link or explain what you mean here? I do not understand the connection to intolerance.

BoredPositron 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It's linked right above in this chain. I am not going to discuss why killing people is intolerant. That's just silly even for hn standards.

lukan 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You edited your post after I commented and there was nothing about killing there before. (Just something about haters)

Indeed not HN standards. And if Joshua said killing people is good, I am interested in a full quote.

anotheryou an hour ago | parent | next [-]

also interested in the source. read a compilation of mails and this was not in there.

BoredPositron an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

If you are going to defend someone you have no or very distant association with like you stated in another reply. Maybe just maybe read what everyone else is talking about, in this chain it would be his email exchange with epstein. Thanks for making ME read that pseudo intellectual shit again so YOU don't have to.

"too many people, so many mass executions of the elderly and infirm make sense is the fundamental fact that everyone dies at some time .make it imporrisbole to ask so why not earilier. if the brain discards unused neurons, why shold socieity keep their equivalent."

https://www.jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_026413?view=i...

EDIT: There was no comment before I edited mine. @dang can probably timestamp it if you want to make a fuss about.

lukan an hour ago | parent | next [-]

"EDIT: There was no comment before I edited mine. @dang can probably timestamp it if you want to make a fuss about."

Dang would just flag us both if we make a fuss here.

And what you apparently mean is, that when you started to edit your comment, my answer wasn't there. But it was already, after you edited.

Anyway, I am fine with calling this part a missunderstanding.

lukan an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe present the full quote?

"too many people, so many mass executions of the elderly and infirm make sense is the fundamental fact that everyone dies at some time .make it imporrisbole to ask so why not earilier. if the brain discards unused neurons, why shold socieity keep their equivalent

The radical idea of treating individuals in a society as cells and the society itself as a well-organized organism is fascism, or course. Probably the most efficient and rationally stringent way of governance, if someone could pull it off in a sustainable way; and if it is aggressive and expansive, its efficiency makes it a virus that everybody will want to stomp out. Fascism makes romantic doo-gooders like me very uncomfortable"

He dares to explore radical taboo ideas and concludes that it would be fascism, which he is not comfortable with.

So .. I see nothing where he is intolerant of anything. But you seem not tolerant for people daring to explore certain thoughts in general? Even if they reach the conclusion this is not the way to go. (And maybe even an attempt at dissuading the other person of those concepts)

BoredPositron 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

That's why I didn't want to quote anything because it's just deteriorating into a debate club about hypotheticals.

To extend your "full" quote: "The radical idea of treating individuals in a society as cells and the society itself as a well-Organized organism is fascism, or course. Probably the most efficient and rationally stringent way of governance, if someone could pull it off in a sustainable way… I rather like the treatment Fascism gets in the Amazon Series ‘The Man in the High Castle’, which explores what would have happened if the Germans and Japanese had won the war: A society that tries to function as a brutal and ruthlessly efficient machine, eliminating all social and evolutionary slack. It is very dark, but not a flat caricature of pointless evil for its own sake."

Let's stay away from killing people how about the misogyny?:

"You cannot learn what does not attract your attention. Women tend to find abstract systems, conflicts and mechanisms intrinsically boring."

anotheryou an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

oh, did not read that one...